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Muertos | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 17:19 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | So, here we go again. In the last blog comment war he accused me of not responding to anything he said, so I gave him a whole entire blog entry where I respond line by line. http://muertos.blog.com/2010/12/10/voice-of-reason-responding-to-more-comments-about-the-zeitgeist-movement/I hope this is my last argument with him. I doubt it will be, but hope springs eternal, I guess. There's nothing new here from CS's point of view, so I'm not even recommending you click it unless you're bored. I was (been grading exams all day and needed a break). | |||||
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Senor Dingdong | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 17:49 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | I don't know where you find the patience Muertos. Give him a couple of years and he'll find out for himself. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 17:52 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Sean just ignore the guy, he's a fucking loser who lives with his dad. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 19:14 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Man, having to register to comment is lame. Anyways, you should have mentioned Mike Ruppert when VoR was talking about how Merola don't associate with CTs anymore. Mike Ruppert's ugly mug is all over Merola's newest shit. | |||||
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Senor Dingdong | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 21:41 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | I used to like Ruppert in my conspiracy days, until I watched collapse and he starts talking about his fiancee who was a secret agent hired by the government to ..I can't remember, to do some negative shit to him. She left him. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 21:45 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Voice of Reason is a lying douchbag. I've argued at length with him and its documented at the JREF, don't ever expect him to admit he is wrong about anything. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 21:47 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | btw re: Peter being the leader. It was well known, when I was in the Movement, that Peter had final say regarding everything. VOR knows this, he is lying through his teeth. EDIT:
That is almost accurate, but to be clearer he banned me in a thread that was about his out of context/fictional quotes, only one of them being something from the 911 section and one from was Addendum.
He has also talked about it at length in an FAQ stickied on his Radio Address forum section. Its really bizarre VOR claims he stopped talking about it, there's interviews on youtuube when he was going around screening Addendum where he talks freely about his 911 conspiracy theories. I myself was at UK premiere where he also did so, even IN ADDENDUM ITSELF he promotes 911 conspiracies!!! But VOR doesnt just say he doesnt talk about 911 since he created the ZGm he goes further. He says he "basically stopped talking about 9/11, Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theories, or has even mentioned Economic Hit Men or even John Perkins in his interviews?". So the fact that this is contained within Addendum, an official ZGM film, had a whole radio show devoted to Acharya S and Federal Reserve conspiracies and claims none of it has been debunked many times in various ways on the forums is...? It could be argued that he talked more about these issues promoting the ZGM and Addendum than he did with the original ZG | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 22:04 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | VoR's full of shit anyways, or else he doesn't know who Mike Ruppert is. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 22:10 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Voice of Reason wrote:
LOLwut??!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai5D-1YG9hA Why are conspiracy theorists always wrong about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING? Its like they are trying. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 22:12 |
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Level: 10 CS Original |
He tried to claim he didnt know who he was when I was arguing with him on youtube, if you remember. I explained that Michael Ruppert was a big part of ZG1's 911 section, that he was a conspiracy theorist and ZGM shouldnt be associated with conspiracy theories and why wasnt VOR concerned that Peter was again associating with conspiracy theorists for ZG 3. He ignored that of course. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 10, 2010 - 22:37 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Maybe the guy is retarded. I am not being sarcastic. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 11:41 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | His response, and not very interesting. More of the same, blah blah, PJM isn't the leader, misapplied logical fallacies, why don't you pay attention to the lectures, yada yada yada. http://zeitgeistresponds.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/long-rant-of-an-article-by-muertos/ I'm probably not even going to respond. It's like arguing with a brick wall. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 11:52 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | Maybe I should try this on my wife: "Yes, I did commit adultery, but that's separate from our marriage, and therefore I'm not an adulterer." | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 12:05 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | wow. what an inane response | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 12:08 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Wait a minute, they are using Nanos being banned here as evidence against TZM banning people who disagree? Isn't Nanos banned there too? What a bunch of tards. Nanos is banned here because he's a racist, a homophobe and a misogynist. Also he's fucking crazy. TZM banned Nanos simply because he pointed out flaws in their ideology. Not because of the reasons he was banned here. So what does that say about TZM? | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 12:46 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | It's a silly analogy anyway. CS doesn't purport to be a social movement or that we're running around trying to "change the world." Nor do we claim that there's no hierarchy or direction in how this site operates. Edward owns it. It's his show. We're all guests here. No one is trying to deny that. I honestly don't understand why TZM argues "Merola's not the leader" so vociferously. The only possible reason is to distance themselves from his CTs and try to deny they're a CT movement. The fact that there's such a visceral horror among them at acknowledging leadership is bizarre. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 13:11 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I wonder if Merola's parents know what he does with his time. | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 14:17 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | No, the reason they deny it is because of their anarchist ideology. They believe everyone can and should be their own leaders and that the world would be better off that way. Therefore, they have to deny that Peter is the leader to stay congruent with their ideology. And either Peter is power-hungry, or he needs to be a leader in order to keep the movement functioning and growing. Either way, they can't let themselves admit it. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 14:25 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Ahhhhhh! Insightful. I'm inclined to agree. Its no more rational than a communist being a fan of Ron Paul. | |||||
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Senor Dingdong | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 16:19 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Jesus christ, how many times does this need to be explained guys. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 16:46 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | He only has absolute word in everything, but he isn't the leader. | |||||
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Kaiser Falkner | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 17:35 |
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HAIL HYDRA Level: 6 CS Original | Reasons people are banned from TZM: disagreeing with PJ, focusing on the flaws in the movies, questioning the party line, and pointing out fallacies and flaws in the logic of the movement Reasons people are banned from CS: Being a racist, bigot, liar, self aggrandizing lunatics, make threats against people, creating accounts just to try and bother people. Yea, GEI was a better troll than me. But that's because I'm not a troll. Never been in TZM, never will be. | |||||
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The Real Roxette | Posted: Dec 16, 2010 - 19:48 |
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain. Level: 8 CS Original | The last reason, "creating accounts just to try and bother people" isn't even universal, VTV has two accounts here, one is him and one is a woman he's pretending to be. | |||||
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Senor Dingdong | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 04:54 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | LOL! He created a female alter ego account on here?! Is that a joke or are you serious? If that's true this man has even plunged to deeper depths than I gave him credit for, hilariuos though. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 07:24 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | No, its serious. After registering an account as VTV, he also registered one as Liz. http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/profile/liz</p> http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/profile/vtv</p> Both accounts are VTV. Neither are banned. | |||||
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Senor Dingdong | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 08:52 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | VTV in drag..*shudder* Nice tits though. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 09:12 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | This is pretty standard behavior for VTV. "Liz" has graced more forums than just this one. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 11:05 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | Against my better judgment I responded on VOR's blog. They reacted quite predictably, just repetitive shrieking of "straw man!" I think I'm done with these two. It's getting old now. Wake me up when Zeitgeisters learn some new arguments. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 11:08 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | THATS A STRAW HOMINEM! | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 11:46 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | A logically fallacious guilt by association straw hominem attack! Why don't you ever respond to anything I say! | |||||
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