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I really don't get it.

If there was a huge war, a massive economic collapse, the apocalypse, or martial law/FEMA camps and NWO/Illuminati takeover or whatever, these people that have their bunkers and dried food and insist on surviving and preparation and all that..aren't you just going to die anyway? Even if none of these things happen...aren't you going to die someday? And if martial law WAS suddenly imposed by the NWO, what the hell is a rifle or shotgun going to do for you? And would you really want to persist in such a world anyway?

I don't get it. Can someone try and explain this to me?

But I thought famous entertainers and actors were part of the Illuminati/NWO. ;)

In seriousness, though, a lot of these folks are also of one CT stripe or another. They also seem incredibly selfish. If something terrible really did happen, wouldn't it be far more effective to band together and help each other instead of contributing to the madness with your guns or selfishness? From one angle, it seems pointlessly nihilistic, and from another, just plain misanthropic. The first time I read about Gerald Celente's predictions here, the one about economic collapse by 2012 made me want to vomit because it sounded like he didn't give a rat's ass about all the homelessness and such that he was predicting.

Mocking it does help a bit. But I still just don't get it. It just seems these people have so little compassion for their fellow man that it disgusts me, and at the same time, I pity them too.

They're paranoid.

Gotta keep in mind that there are a lot of crazy ass people out there. Literally crazy. You have no idea what's going on in someone's brain.

Blame it on christianity, the failed doomsday cult which nonetheless manages to hang on, even though its original rationale now makes no sense. Non-Western cultures generally don't produce apocalyptic cults until they have some exposure to christian teachings, like the American Indians' Ghost Dance, the Melanesians' cargo cults and the Chinese Taiping Rebellion.

Apparently after christianity distorts a culture's thinking, people start to have trouble with the idea that the human race could just muddle through for indefinite millennia to come. They want to become actors in some metaphysical discontinuity in the universe which elevates their lives to heroic proportions.

@Wolf Bird:

The christian doomsayers overlap with the secular ones to a large extent. Both groups often share a belief in the Austrian Apocalypse (hyperinflation), for example.

BTW, the popularity of zombie apocalypse novels, computer games, movies and TV shows relates to this trend. Notice how often they show some marginal guy, like a low-wage service worker, who finds his status elevated among the survivors because society's males dominant over him in business, government and the military screwed up their handling of the zombie plague somehow and got killed in the process. He even gets to help himself to the freshly collapsed society's remaining manufactured goods without having to exchange money for them, like in Fresco's RBE.

//I guarantee you the only way to curb the rage is to mock this bullshit at every given opportunity.//

//They deserve neither your disgust nor your pity. The only thing they deserve is ridicule.//

Man so true.

"It's the ones that predict (essentially root for) civil disorder and economic collapse that confuse and scare me. The guys like AJ and Gerald Celente and their fans."

I'd say it partly has something to do with them wanting everyone to see they were right all along, kinda like an "I told you so" moment. You know in the movies when the main character claims to have talked to aliens or ghosts or something bizarre and nobody believes them/thinks their batstinky insane? Then in the end everyone sees they were right. CT'ers seem to think this will eventually happen to them.

"I'd say it partly has something to do with them wanting everyone to see they were right all along, kinda like an "I told you so" moment. You know in the movies when the main character claims to have talked to aliens or ghosts or something bizarre and nobody believes them/thinks their batstinky insane? Then in the end everyone sees they were right. CT'ers seem to think this will eventually happen to them."
Agree with that; but some of them get this sick plessure thinking about the "sheeple" suffering because the refuse to see the "truth". Basicly the "sheeple" will get what the they have coming to them and the will enjoy watching it.

@Joe and Ez

That's totally sick, on both counts. Seriously. Once again, do these people have hearts?

Doomsday cultists don't want just any apocalypse; they want the one which validates their beliefs. Believers in the Austrian Apocalypse, for example, dismiss global warming as Chicken Little stuff; believers in the Singularity AI Apocalypse dismiss religious apocalypses like the christian versions as woo; and so forth.

"Though, I DO give TZM credit in that at least they at least don't seem drawn to violence like some of the other various doomsday cultists."

Yes, they do. TZM has often proposed forced "re-education" of those who are unwilling or unable to be fit into their utopian system. They have also proposed "hospitalizing" dissidents as well.

You probably shouldn't give credit where it isn't deserved.

Everyone thinks they're Mad Max and noone wants to think they might be the poor schmuck in the truck who gets shot for his gazzoline.

"I think this is another problem I have with TZM, is that, they too, come off as advocating massive economic collapse."

They do want this to happen as it would validate their positions on current society in their minds.

Personally I dont like TZM because their idea of a future society seems to be like some design for a piece of software. And that everyone is just going to do as the design says and everything will be perfect. Does anything in society ever go like that? Even if the ideology isn't inherently flawed, human nature prevents it from being possible. Take communism for example.