Skeptic Project

Have you guys been following this thread?

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=5&id=252505

Peter has been quite active in the discussion.

Help, everyone's out to get me!

All that writing in red is psychological and ego.

psychological why ?

red is used as warnings and danger, also as corrections by teachers.

ego why ?

He is making his own posts stand out from all others as if they are the most important opinion in the thread.

The more he posts the more he looks like a cult leader.

I find that it is pretty rude to write in red, unless you are a teacher.

I took an online/in person hybrid class on ethics when I was in college. We were required to color code our comments however we saw fit, but we were barred from using red, which was reserved for the prof.

This must be the kind of thing he is trying to pull off. I'm reminded of the whole "didn't deny that he was a doctor" thing (same guy, right?)

On a side note, he capitalizes strange things...like "Us". It's sort of like when people say Him in reference to the LAWD.

EDIT: Also, I just read his forum rules, and they are funny. "User" is capitalized. It's just kinda strange.

Great thread Domokato you sound a lot like like me ;) maybe me and you are the same person or then again maybe not (the world may never know) O_o

I will confirm that I am Williamsmokes (account name) on the TZM forum but then again maybe I'm not for all the TZMEr watching ooo. Maybe I'm listening in on TS3 and recording convo's as well as other Zietcult mediums and then again maybe I'm not O_o your guess is better than mine TZM cult. So maybe I'm doing multiple sock puppet accounts to TZM then again maybe I'm not. whatever the TZM cult says is a sock puppet account of mine is correct :D

Right now in TZM I have posed as girls and guys in TS3 (voice changer ftw) too get information then again maybe I didn't O_o... I infested myself into all the chapter in TZm cult then again maybe I didn't O_o. Maybe I did a lot of things then again maybe I didn't, again whatever TZm says I did then i did whatever they didn't say I did I didn't do weiiii (because TZm cult is right):D The only people who can make those calls are the people on the top of TZM such as VtV, Gregory Wantz, peter merola, Fresco, Noel, Gilbert Ismail. Anybody else making those calls is not as important because those people are not on the top and are not as well informed as the people are on the top about the tennets of the TZM cult movement therefore cannot represent the TZm cult movement as a whole...

>> Peter Merola: I have done nothing but explain EVERYTHING I can with a great deal of patience. You choose not to listen and you have refuted NOTHING I have said. So, I'm now questioning your motives... <<

That's funny because maybe I was the thread starter maybe I'm not but whatever. How does questioning someone's motive have anything to do related to topic posed on TZm cult forums? If you haven't forgotten Peter merola the topic posted in the TZM cult topic category called "THE MONETARY SYSTEM" topic title started by domokato called "The Fallacy That Capitalism Requires Growth" not "Can you guess what my motives are?". Why are you Questioning someone's motives? How about answering the problems instead of derailing them again attempting to call someone a troll who happens to have opinions.

Peter Merola is a conspiracy theorist cult leader of the zeitgiest movement in my opinion. Notice such members my favorite TZM cult brain washed member being a individual by the name of Homo Cyberneticus who is the leader of the Massachusetts Chapter on TZM cult and he also has a disease or what have you called Asperger's syndrome.

To describe briefly what Asperger's is link below (posted by Homo Cybernetics)

http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=251692

>> homo cybernetics definition: Individuals with Asperger's Disorder usually want to fit in and have interaction with others; they simply don't know how to do it. They may be socially awkward, not understanding of conventional social rules, or show a lack of empathy. They may have limited eye contact, seem to be unengaged in a conversation, and not understand the use of gestures.<<

>>homo cybernetics defintion: Children with Asperger's Disorder frequently like to collect categories of things, such as rocks or bottle caps. They may be proficient in knowing categories of information, such as baseball statistics or Latin names of flowers. While they may have good rote memory skills, they have difficulty with abstract concepts.<<

Some things i'm concerned with as far as brain washed TZM cult member Homo Cyberneticus says on the TZm cult forums are

>> homo cybernetics: This group is against the blind profit motive and advocates stricter control of the monetary system. We in the Zeitgeist Movement realize that stricter control is not enough.<<

>> homo cybernetics: You have viewed the Zeitgeist Movement's source material, I am assuming...

Cyclical Consumption is NECESSARY for the monetary system to stay afloat. When does a cycle end? It doesn't: it is infinite. Are you saying that people can stop purchasing things and the system will be fine? That consumption is not necessary? Shows a zeitcult movie below<<

>>homo cybernetics: I would say "Welcome to the club", but you founded the club<<

>> homo cybernetics: Dom, can you please address Peter's points?<<

I'm concerned for Homo Cyberneticus, who can easily be taken advantage of by the Zietgeist movement, and Peter Merola and Fresco know these types of people can be easily manipulated for their cause. Homo Cyberneticus although has a real disease this individual is fighting and trying to work with he is not the only one with problems within the TZm cult. Although Homo Cyberneticus is more easily manipulated into joining the zietgeist cult others are manipulated in other ways because they simply do not know. I am simply shocked the Peter merola and Fresco would go to such manipulations/cons to attract such people to their cult but then again their a cult they will do it if needed.

Examples of cults taking advantage of people with disabilities and others...

About Heavan's Gate cult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)
http://tinyurl.com/2cocu5</p>

interview with Heaven's Gate cult members
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=zhYrSF3ubBc
http://tinyurl.com/25k5b9c</p>

Heaven's Gate Movie Pitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=db4HOzxVtHM&feature=related
http://tinyurl.com/2cyuq8h</p>

Heaven's Gates cult leader much like Peter merola and fresco, would be interesting to put a back to back video of peter merola and heaven's Gates leader in a comparatively analysis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
http://tinyurl.com/235c64w</p>

former member of heavan's gate who didn't commit suicide.

Heaven's gate old website

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://heavensgate.com/<br /> http://heavensgate.com/<br /> http://www.wave.net/upg/gate/</p>

David McKay and Jesus Christians Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=bAo9WUUeLB4
http://tinyurl.com/2d2vn2n</p>

One good parallels between the zietgeist movement and Heaven's gate is in Heaven's gate like in the video they were waiting for a exit or a sign that being the Comet Hale-Bopp in the zietgeist movement they are waiting for a sign in this case the collapse of the economy which may come now or 50 even a 100 years (by TZM cult figures thanks to Dr. Peter merola). Yet my question to them is like in the zeitcult video as Peter Merola says, if the game is rigged why wouldn't they not record/manipulate the 98% of electronic made money within society therefore inflation/interest on the money would be stagnate, as much as you zietcult preaches on hating the system if the system did this would this not in fact solve the problem by simply cooking the books? No of course not the zeitcult would preach that the system isn't corrupt and wouldn't do that, haha yeah right... I just now shot down their argument about a eventually collapse passing information on what peter merola says in the zietcult video... even though I have no clue if anybody is cooking the books I can give examples of how our defense department lost 1.2 trillion dollars and has no clue on where that money was spent therefore it's unaccounted for therefore we can only speculate where the money is going towards. (link below) How the hell do you lose a trillion dollars O_o Point being why the heck would the government not try to prevent a collapse any way possible including cooking the books if it's that simple... I highly doubt their will ever be a collapse thanks to technological advances in the monetary system the majority of it is done through electronic no longer with paper the monetary system can be easily manipulated not by only the government but any technologically savvy individual such as hackers etc... It's been proven use google to find examples. In short their is not longer a need for paper trail it is almost impossible to track where the money is coming from, or how it got their in the first place in the virtual environment...

http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-05-18/news/17491492_1_pentagon-gao-financial-accounting</p>

Dr. peter Merola has all the answer for his zietcult and knows everything so yes their is a collapse coming oohh yes! If you go against his opinion then you are defined as a troll (or anybody on the top rank in that TZM hierarchal cult structure)

I also may suggest that Dr.Peter merola's motive is to out do his brother Eric Merola in making his work more popular much like a sibling Riveraly. That the Zeitcult Peter merola formed is merely a fan club to market Peter merola's work through DVD's and pamphlets to become popular. I mean think about it everything is basically being done for free as far as promotions by other people, a brilliant plan indeed. Like I said Peter merola and Fresco are working together and are very good snake oil salesmen at best. The reason why I do the things I do towards the zeitcult are for the people with Asperger's Disorder, the disabled people, and others or maybe I don't do anything towards TZM cult at all again it's up to TZM cult high ranking admins/mods to decide not me O_o

I've followed that thread for a while...has there been posted anything of substance so far?

I'm getting slightly tired of the whole "Let's change the world", when they can't even debate a simple point - like if capitalism depends on economic growth or not.

If yes, there might be a reason for it to crash, if no, it will probably never crash and TZM makes an error proposing a collapse, as economists will respond "Well, we can fix the growth issue by reforming the system, we don't need your movement".

>> like if capitalism depends on economic growth or not.

According to Marxism, capitalism is necessary to industrialize and modernize society, then as capitalism degrades, it will be overthrown by workers. Fascists predicted a similar end to liberal capitalism (freemarket capitalism, rather) by a massive general strike. Neither have ever happened as predicted, as per Marxist countries like USSR, China, Vietnam, etc. they were never industrialized by capitalism, instead they typically skipped it all together, which (aside from their totalitarianism) was likely the reason for massive economic stagnation. We'll likely never know how fascist economics would have worked out in the long term, as all fascist countries were more or less destroyed during World War II.

One thing neither Marx or Fascists (as far as I've read) ever predicted was the rise in things like minimum wage, fractional reserve banking, deposit insurance, heavy government regulation of the economy despite semi-freemarkets. All of these things keep the capitalist system from simply failing. If they're waiting for it to collapse to make their move, they'll be waiting a long time.