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No shit VTV thinks he has invented a new system of his own 'Anarcho-Virtualism' and stated the following:

"This school of anarchy was founded by Neil Kiernan Stephenson, based entirely on the work of industrial designer and social engineer Jacque Fresco of The Venus Project. "

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VTV115

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1 Anarcho-Virtualism
1.1 History
1.2 References
1.3 External links

[edit] Anarcho-Virtualism

Anarcho-Virtualism advocates the abolishment of the monetary system of exchange in favor of a resource based economy, wherein all of the resources of a given community are declared as the common heritage of all of it's people. Like Anarcho-Communism and Anarcho-Syndicalism Anarcho-Virtualism advocates the abolition of the state, private property and capitalism in favor of common ownership of the means of production. Where it differs from these systems, is that rather then focusing on labor as a means of exchange, Anarcho-Virtualists feel that the need for labor can eventually be eliminated entirely through automation. This school holds to the idea that almost all functions previously held by government can be placed into the hands of machines in a manner similar to Cyberocracy. With computer networks that are designed with sensors to gather data on the status of the earth and the communities on it and react accordingly. This cybernated system would facilitate the rapid transmission of relevant information from the source of a problem to the people or automated machines in a position able to fix said problem, via a system of interconnected computer networks and automated information sorting software, with human decision makers only be called into use in the case of unusual problems, problem trends, or through an appeal process pursued by an individual.

Anarcho-Virtualists disagree with the notion that many Anarcho-Communists hold to that people will spontaneously commit themselves to labor for the betterment of the community, and instead seek to use technology to automate menial labor. Allowing mankind to instead focus on researching and developing better technology to improve the standard of living of all people. Education, housing, food and all the other necessities of life through the intelligent management of resources could be easily provided with the proper application of technology. It is egalitarian in it's approach, utilizing the scientific method to find the best possible standard of living for all of the people in a given society. Anarcho-Virtualists reject any form of social class or social stratification.

In addition, Anarcho-Virtualists believe that the environment must be protected through the use of sustainable and recyclable forms of energy and production. That all goods produced should be produced with sustainability and efficiency in mind to minimize waste and maximize quality. That all communities should be as self-sufficient as possible.

Anarcho-Virtualists feel that capitalism and the motive to make profit that comes with it too often leads to corruption and the creation of social class. Leading to pollution, war, and the exploitation of the workforce. They also point to technological unemployment, that is unemployment created by innovations in automation technology is eliminating jobs at an ever accelerating rate. As corporate entities seek to minimize their workforce and therefore the wages they must pay out of their profits. Free Market advocates have long argued that technological unemployment is a fallacy, stating that any unemployment created by machines will be absorbed by the production of the machines themselves. However Anarcho-Virtualists believe that most of those arguments were made in a time when technology was no where near as advanced as it is today, where machines make machines. Anarcho-Virtualists point out that the only labor force that can effectively compete with an automated machine is slave labor. And that this conclusion has already been reached by profit motivated businessmen who buy their products from factories in the third world where working conditions are extremely profitable but equally inhumane.

Anarcho-Virtualists also feel that laws, force and coercion are not an effective means to effect social change. Challenging instead that all behavior comes from the environment of the person in question. The circumstances in which people currently defined as criminals would be examined closely to determine the root cause of the behavior so as to prevent that behavior in the future. As well as determining how best to help that individual. This school of anarchy holds to the idea that crime is generally a direct reaction to the scarcity of the necessities of life, or through neurosis caused by the stress of that situation. This they feel can be overcome through creating abundance.

Personal choice is absolutely respected in this school of thought, and rather then attempting to forbid certain modes of behavior such as eating unhealthy food or the use of dangerous drugs, research into the effects of such behavior that is untainted by the motive to make profit in selling these items would be made public to discourage these choices.

Education would be centered on the cultivation of creative and analytical thinking, empowering people to be able to solve problems and provide solutions.

Anarcho-Virtualism values the use of the scientific method and logic in all decision making. Stating that the best way for all of mankind to live the best life possible will only be clear through rational thinking that has been tested for it's validity.
[edit] History

This school of anarchy was founded by Neil Kiernan Stephenson, based entirely on the work of industrial designer and social engineer Jacque Fresco of The Venus Project. Fresco has worked as both designer and inventor in a wide range of fields spanning from biomedical innovations to totally integrated social systems. He believes his ideas would maximally benefit the greatest number of people and he states some of his ideas stem from his formative years during the Great Depression.[1]

The Venus Project was started in the mid-1970s by Fresco and his partner, Roxanne Meadows. The film Future by Design was produced in 2006 describing his life and work. To this day he writes and lectures extensively on subjects ranging from the holistic design of sustainable cities, energy efficiency, natural resource management and advanced automation, focusing on the benefits it will bring to society. Recently Mr. Fresco and the Venus Project along with it's solutions for mankind's ills were featured in the film Zeitgeist Addendum.

Mr. Fresco was compelled by his childhood experiences during the great depression to find a sustainable society for all people. In pursuit of this he traveled to an island in the Pacific where there was little to no conflict between the native peoples present due to an abundance of food and shelter. What he witnessed there was a society with an environment that rendered it almost completely free of conflict. With all of the people's needs in abundance, there was no need for competition. Mr. Fresco then went on to research ways to recreate this effect in a modern world through the use of technology to create the same circumstances of abundance.
[edit] References

^ Future by Design at the Internet Movie Database

[edit] External links

The Venus Project - Official website
Future By Design - Film about Jacque Fresco
The Zeitgeist Movement - Website for the activist arm of the Venus Project
V-RADIO - Personal website of Neil Kiernan Stephenson

He has simply taken Frescos Venus Project added in a few loose extra terms to pad it out and then relabelled it and taken credit for its invention, while stating it was based off Frescos work so as to not appear to be looking like a thief.

Problem is that he is stating he is the founder of a school of thought. Hes such a fucking idiot.

Yeah thats typical of the spasticated qualities of zeitards. Particularly those who have imparted the claims of Fresco/Merola verbatim. They dont seem to have any ability to provide their own background research or studies, they only have the ability to sling the words of Fresco/Merola in your direction in the hope they can take a position of authority based upon these flawed works.

VTV is no different to any of the regular zeitards in this way, his only method for validation of his claims are entirely gained from Jacque Frescos works and videos. Those themselves are garnered from previous actual studies and writings from much more accredited and esteemed people.

It amazes me how these idiots are vultures even to the people they supposedly admire.

Herbert Marcuse, who the fuck is that ?

Hows this going for you VTV ?

Got any papers or books coming out on your new system ?

New economic model - a treatise = some bullshit label.

It doesn't have had to exist for it to be real, you just have to propose a system and detail how it could work. Not just steal someone else's idea and write a couple of paragraphs. Do you think Kropotkin could have just wrote a couple of paragraphs in awe of Marx's work and call it anarcho-communist? No, he wrote a treatise.

Really doesn't matter if it's a load of dingo's kidneys or the the key for a successful utopia, you can't make up a name for an economic system if you don't explain (in detail) how it can work. You especially can't name it if it's not your idea at all.

Strangely, nobody I know seems to be interested in the inner workings of an alternative economic system.

Nobody in TZM, in the ParEcon-community, or in the orthodox communist circles, which are pretty much the only groups interested in a post-capitalist debate I found, has voiced interest in working on this, and the few people I've found aren't really members anyway.

There's a debate running on TVP's forum: http://forum.v-radio.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=149

Basic premise is this: There's a lot of supposedly anti-capitalist ideas in TZM, and there's a few things I find problematic myself. I don't know which ones of these are right, and the guys I work with can't develop better models without a clear understanding of what is fundamental (i.e., what has to be resolved) and what isn't (i.e., what can be ignored). How to find out which is which? Search for a bunch of people who are not likely to reject anything that goes against market orthodoxy outright, but are also reasonable/skeptical enough to attack the arguments with the rigor required.

What really happened is, of course, different: One guy posted a Fresco video and somebody else didn't understand what ubiquity of scarcity means.
All work and no debate makes CJ a dull boy.

Me too. Thought about using .hex' account to post it on TZM, but it's unlikely to yield better results.

So, leeching off of Fresco - how pathetic is that.