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anticultistPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 11:35
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sorryPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 11:45
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peterjoseph said:

First of all, RRUU, please do not ask me open questions via forum like this. I am doing my best to interact here but I don't like being called out and expected to respond-thanks.

What the fuck is the forum for? Sword fighting amongst members?

peterjoseph said:

oil was always transitional and that it is here to allow the species to get up to speed on how the universe (regenerative) worked and to allow time to create a truly sustainable society. Oil is to be used to allow us technical access to the truly renewable energies.

This isn't a spiritual movement? Then how come you're spewing this manifest destiny bullshit? Sounds like you think god put oil here as the method of leading us to sustainability. Give me a break.

peterjoseph said:

Apart from energy, Oil is also dangerous. There should be public move to shut down all off shore drilling. The risk is too great.

Oil is dangerous, which still follows suit with god considering pretty much everything he's created is "a poisoned apple." Still, you expect us to jump to the next plane of existence via a resource, whose means of extracting should be shut down.

peterjoseph said:

Research the work of geologist Colin Campbell.

Research this: http://www.oilcrisis.com/Lynch/

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:10
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sorryPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:14
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peterjoseph said:

The Iraq war was a corporate takeover for global oil reserves which are centralized in the middle east. While this is speculation, there is an obvious US interest in getting control of as much oil as possible.

Nice one throwing the war into your argument and then saying it's not only speculation but irrelevant because there are so many other reasons why the US likes oil.

peterjoseph said:

When I interact here I expect mutual respect, regardless of differing opinion.

Where does banning the other party fit into that?

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:17
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"The Iraq war was a corporate takeover for global oil reserves which are centralized in the middle east. While this is speculation, there is an obvious US interest in getting control of as much oil as possible."

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4032</p>

Merola is boring and also totally wrong.

Why does this fool have so many people hanging on his nuts when his claims can be debunked with a damn Google search?

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The Burger KingPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:23
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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Better save those posts Peter is going to delete them...

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:25
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Merola: "Anyway-I'm turned off here. When I interact here I expect mutual respect, regardless of differing opinion."

Why won't anyone give me the respect that an art school dropout deserves. ;_;

He sure is a crybaby bitch.

Merola: "I don't owe you anything and if Peak oil is real or not, it changes nothing with regard to TZM and a RBE."

Yeah, who cares if Peak Oil is wrong. It fits the narrative I want! Yeah, who cares if 911 wasn't an inside job. It fits the narrative I want! Yeah, who cares if everything in my movies is wrong. It fits the narrative I want!

This guy's a tool. If he had picked up a Bible instead of Paultard literature there wouldn't be much difference. This is all about dogma.

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anticultistPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:39
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I love this though, Peter gets a fucking schooling here:

Peter Joseph said:
"End of story."

MariosBros said:

"Not quite In science, there is never such a thing as "End of story""

@Billl

yes screengrabbed all of the things that he may remove in case

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Sil the ShillPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 14:11
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"I love this though, Peter gets a fucking schooling here:

Peter Joseph said:
>>"End of story."

MariosBros said:

"Not quite In science, there is never such a thing as "End of story"""

To be fair, MarioBros seems like a dunce too... talking about how the economy 'is not collapsing, it's being brought down'.

Though, I do like how he's pointing out Merola's inconsistencies about what he tries to state now and the content of his earlier films:

>>"You're the one who documented the attack on WTC as being an inside job, how do you call people who are capable of pulling that off? It's not your next door Joe, is it? I call them elites, just like Alex Jones and numerous other people do ... that doesn't mean they're monolithic group as you seem to be implying. If they were, they wouldn't need to meet at Bilderberg meetings, CFR, Trilateral commission and a dozen others to discuss their future actions. Or are you saying those meetings do not exist?"

Luckily for Peter, 'the movies aren't the movement'!! ;)

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anticultistPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 14:36
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Agreed Sil Though he [MarioBros] does make some reasonable points against Peter which I enjoyed reading as well as being a bit CTish, .

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EdPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 14:54
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Its funny when someone like MarioBros, a rabid truther calls Peter unscientific lol

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 15:04
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Sorry but this looks like two morons fighting each other.

I refuse to support either moron.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Jun 17, 2010 - 15:28
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>> yes screengrabbed all of the things that he may remove in case

I think he made the other CS threads mods only, except for the one related to the TZM article that's locked. I have screenshots of most pages on those two threads.

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anticultistPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 17:46
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remember this post ?

well here is an update Mariobros makes another verbal argument against peter here:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=267122&limit=10&limitstart=20#268363

And then we turn over the page and would you believe it he was banned and had to come back and make it known he was silenced without any mention of it by peter:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=267122&limit=10&limitstart=30

No mention of his original account or his duplicate account banning in public moderation:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=60&id=154760&limit=10&limitstart=60#269322

So as you can see his original account was banned with no mention of why in public moderation, other than because Peter was being educated and humiliated in public and didnt like it.

He came back to ask why and show he had been silenced and banned without any mention, and they removed all his posts and his new accounts and still no mention of it in public moderation.

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sorryPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 18:28
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It'd be cool to ban Merola from life. Hi, Peter.

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EdPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 18:44
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Powermike is not MarioBros, Im pretty certain.

Is that what you are saying?

I cant believe they outright banned him for being a.... "Self-admitted Non-member"

I thought the ZGM welcomes criticisms? I thought Fresco said dont be polite? I thought Peter said he loves to be proven wrong? What a joke he is.

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anticultistPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 18:59
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No I am not saying that Ed I am saying marioBros original account was banned after he argued with Peter about Peak oil. Then he returned with more accounts in that same thread and was banned again and silenced all posts deleted. There was no evidence given why he was banned other than Peter was being pressed and didnt like it, he used an excuse he was being rude to him in the thread but it was because peter was ignoring his questions and points

And yeah Powermike getting banned for being a non member is another thing that is ridiculous.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:10
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They also banned satish for spamming his poems all over the board.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:12
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Just popping in to say hello to Peter. Hi Peter.

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EdPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:20
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I will also say a nice thing about Powermike, he was the first person to say publically that I should be given more credit :)

TOPIC: Ed is not getting the credits he deserves
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&id=159278&catid=60#159278

EDIT: look how naive I was at the end of the thread thinking Peter was okay with criticism. lol

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anticultistPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:27
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haha yes I know Ed

I did mention about being banned for being critical here as well when I first arrived and you scolded me for pages about it, at least now you understand where I am coming from.

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EdPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:39
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I know now yes, though to be fair they weren't nearly as bad as they are now!

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sorryPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:40
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That's cause you aint there anymore. ;)

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EdPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 19:44
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Yup, I still don't get enough credit! lol I witnessed the moment Peter realised he could just ban everyone who disagree with him! :D

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SkyPosted: Jun 23, 2010 - 20:14
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It'd be cool to ban Merola from life. Hi, Peter.

I don't think murder will solve anything.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Jun 27, 2010 - 15:01
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The one thing I always found interesting about Peak Oil, is that CT's consider it a hoax as well. Usually they are all about jumping on the doomsday train, but not with Peak Oil. Unless the 'doom' in this situation, is that the alleged 'myth of peak oil' just helps to further the 'global warming hoax'.

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MuertosPosted: Jun 27, 2010 - 15:10
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I can't understand why CTs think global warming is a hoax in the first place. The origins of that theory are primarily political, and as you point out it's rare for CTs to pass up a doomsday-is-imminent scenario. I'm not sure global warming is imminent "doomsday," but it's about as close as it gets in the real world with verifiable evidence.

It always seemed strange to me that Alex Jones preaches about all sorts of imminent doomsdays, but not global warming. No, THAT doomsday is just a hoax.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 27, 2010 - 15:35
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"The one thing I always found interesting about Peak Oil, is that CT's consider it a hoax as well."

That depends on the political leanings of the CT. Leftwing CTs are more likely to buy into Peak Oil because they are more likely to have an anti-business ideology.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Jun 27, 2010 - 16:33
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Michael Ruppert has gone bat shit insane over Peak Oil, I think he leans towards the right, but I'm not sure honestly.

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