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JoePosted: Jan 02, 2013 - 14:14
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This has been a Conspiracy Theory that has been driving me crazy since I came across it. It has been keeping me an up at night and it has been dominating my life. I first came across the Frank Olson case back in the mid-1990s when it was aired on this Episode of Unsolved Mysteries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QsOrrpenzw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm544SKM3kg
Here is the Background back in the 1950's Frank Olson went to New York with another CIA agent to get help for a Mental Break down where he died from a fall jumping through the closed window. Years later his family would find out that he was drugged with LSD as a part of MK Ultra but still maintaining that he jumped through a closed window. But on of Frank Olson's son did not buy it so in the mid-1990's had a forensic team lead by Dr. James Starr:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/james_starrs_profile/index.html
They found that first of all his face had no cut on the face which had led to the closed casket funeral and was indicated from the 1950s death report. And the he was beaten and the thrown out of the window. His son has since found out more information why his dad was murdered. He was degusted by the torture and deaths of Cold War spy's and former Nazi's that we witnessed and the Anthrax that was used in the Korean War.
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/
Here is a Documentary that goes into more detail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThqUt6fozhc
As you can see the Conspiracy Theory is air tight. Two things that make this it all true it was the fact that Dr. James Starr appears vary credible. And second was that Frank Olson's son was there when they removed him from his coffin and said that his face had none of the cuts on his face.
So know I am looking back and wondering is if this one is true then others such as 9/11 and the JFK Assassination might be true.
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anticultistPosted: Jan 02, 2013 - 16:34
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"So know I am looking back and wondering is if this one is true then others such as 9/11 and the JFK Assassination might be true."

Wrong way to look at things.

That is like saying because one thing might be so, then every other thing is identically so. This is the worst possible way to think about things.

You must demand evidence for everything, if you find evidence for one thing, then that thing has been shown to be so, but then to go and say other separate things may be so based on the previous without evidence is simply silly.


If there are cases of conspiracy to murder [which there are], then I agree it is disturbing, but to consider everything as being a conspiracy to murder is something you should categorically avoid doing.

We all know there is no evidence for 911 and JFK, in fact everything conspiracy theorists claim to be true has been shown to be false, so there is no evidence to believe in them. Unless you want to be a crank who believes things without evidence ?

Regarding the CIA case I am familiar with it and the sons opening up of the investigation, but as far as I was last aware he has made no progress through the law courts with his investigation yet. It is currently open though so any evidence will be weighed up.

Article about it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/29/cia-lawsuit-scientist-1950s-death
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live and learnPosted: Jan 03, 2013 - 16:53
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Well I've just finished going over everything you've posted and it does sound plausible. It's understandable why the CIA would terminate one of their own at that time, as this was basically the CIA version of the Manhattan Project. It's possible, and if its true this could probably cause "the beginning of the end of the CIA" as frankolsonproject.org stated, which makes it even more compelling and interesting. But until this theory has been confirmed I will remain agnostic on the issue, maybe this is the case, or maybe it really was just a freak accident with LSD

If true, then we know that the CIA had 2 choices at the time: 1. Allow Olson to expose their experiments thus possibly cause the "beginning of the end of the CIA" or 2. Terminate Olson to make sure that he doesn't blow the whistle. Either way they are at risk of being exposed if this theory turns out to be true

If it was an assassination (meaning they chose Option 2) then they've still run the risk of screwing themselves over if this case ever comes to fruition

The CIA has confessed to doing some shady shit in the past so I wouldn't be that surprised if this turned out to be the case
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JoePosted: Jan 03, 2013 - 21:40
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Or then again it may just be what the CIA has claimed all along. A "Mind Control" experiment gone wrong and Frank Olson did jump. There is know way to know for sure.
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You are right even if this one is true; which may not be so. Does not mean that all of the CTs that have been proven wrong are not automaticly true.
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Also I have been e-mailing Dr. John McAdams who is a big JFK debunker. I told him that the one part that got me stuck was that the NY Corinor had said is face was cut up; while Dr. James Starr and Frank Olson's son said that it was not. McAdams said such anomalies are common; but do not prove conspericy. My qustion is why not?
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anticultistPosted: Feb 01, 2013 - 22:39
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I guess he is implying that any other impacts the body/face had with objects and floor could well have provided enough damage ?
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