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live and learnPosted: Apr 01, 2013 - 20:48
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so anyone ever heard of this so called "Zeph Daniels"? basically another one of those people who claims to be a victim of the "Illuminati". Don't get me wrong, I dont believe he is what he says he is, but I also don't try to debunk this on my own without help, if i do, then I may just slip back into old fears, and I don't want that to happen.

so can ya guys help me out with this? thanks
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emcadaPosted: Apr 05, 2013 - 13:42
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I'm assuming this is his website

http://zephdaniel.podbean.com/

I also found something that may have been written by him

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/endtimesprogramming23oct04.shtml

If this is the case it wouldn't be too difficult to rip apart.
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live and learnPosted: Apr 05, 2013 - 20:08
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yeah I did some digging on my own (though i originally didn't want to), and I definitely don't think he's legit. Apparently his name used to be "Woody Keith"? and how come he doesn't give us any insight into his family, supposedly they're big in Hollywood. A google search of the name "Woody Keith" reveals only a few movies that he was involved in, none of which recieved favourable ratings. Hardly sounds like any "big" hollywood family at all.

I was generally able to debunk this on my own, however I'm still having trouble debunking this:
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/5506/what-is-this/

Along with the claims of Ted Gunderson (the FBI agent who claimed that the FBI practiced some form of satanism). Gunderson died in his early 80s of cancer 2 years ago. I don't necessarily believe his claims but I can't find any sources online that debunk it. Of course conspiritards claim he was murdered. Why would they murder him when he's in his 80's?! he started talking all this shit in the 1990s if I remember correctly, they've had plenty of time to dispose of him. Not to mention, he stopped working for the FBI by the time 1980 came around, so he didn't start making all these claims until at least 10 years AFTER he stopped working for the FBI, why wait all that time to "expose"? They supposedly kill all these celebrities who supposedly "expose" them through subliminal means, yet they won't kill this guy when he's blatantly "exposing" them. No, I don't buy it
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anticultistPosted: Apr 06, 2013 - 05:41
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Ted Gunderson was crazy.

http://barbarahartwell.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/ex-fbi-agent-ted-gunderson-exposed.html

"Gunderson's first wife, one of many, talked in depth about him being diagnosed as a paranoid-schizophrenic in 1971 and placed on medication. She later divorced him because of this mental condition. Today two of his four adult children, Ted Gunderson Jr. of PA. and Lorie Hern of Santa Monica, CA., suffer from this same medical problem, Ted Jr. having been placed on the same medication. Both his adult children have been hospitalized numerous times for this mental illness. Today Ted does not take his medication. He should, he needs it, and it shows."

There you go, everything he claims can not only be called into question, but completely doubted due to his mental imbalance and refusal to take meds.

He is dead from cancer now btw
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live and learnPosted: Apr 06, 2013 - 10:38
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Not sure if I trust that Barbara Hartwell person. Look at her bio on that website. Claims to be a former member of the CIA, Black-Ops surivor, now she's a big Christian "exposing" lies of the government? I don't know if there's any "illuminati" crap on her blog, but if there isn't then I guess I would trust her more than Ted Gunderson.

That "educate-yourself" site that Emcada linked me to tries to "expose" her as a "CIA disinfo agent" and defends Gunderson. Although that educate yourself site is full of alot of crazy stuff. Are there any links that can confirm Gunderson's condition besides that blog?
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anticultistPosted: Apr 06, 2013 - 12:00
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I wouldn't trust her either, but Ted Gunderson being mentally unwell is fairly common knowledge, it was just the first place I could find to show the details.

If you want to verify that he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic it can be done if need be.

His ex wife's name is Jocelyn if you want to do the research.
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live and learnPosted: Apr 07, 2013 - 20:51
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allright, now all that's left for me to debunk is this (both the story and the claims he makes in the comments section on that story. This one I could use help with:

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/5506/what-is-this/
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