Skeptic Project

It's official! Russell Brand knows about Paradise or Oblivion. Check out Bryce Blake's re-tweeted message on Russell Brand's twitter account!

Disclaimer: I recently talked with Joe Park over TS3 and I thought I would add a disclaimer in this topic based on the concerns of this individual who is a official representative of TVP. Joe did not tell me to do this, he mentioned this topic as a example as to why he doesn't take SP.com seriously. So first off this topic is to the best of my knowledge accurate to the years of my experience in dealing with TVP and TZM. I stand by this topic and any others I have written on SP.com however will correct topics that are inaccurate or wrong to the best of my ability.

Joe disagreed with this topic in one sentence I had wrote that it would suggest because TVP wants Russel Brand to agree and join up with TVP to make TVP more legit; Joe states that does not mean it makes TVP look more legitimate or based on science however he suggest that TVP wants Russel Brand because it would give TVP more publicity.

I would like to note Joe Park frustration towards this topic and other topics on SP.com. Being that he is a official representation of TVP he feels this topic and other topics do not accurately represent TVP. He has told me that if I write things pertaining to TVP that I contact him first to get accurate information on things pertaining to TVP. Although I agree with Joe Park on this I do not feel that this will be possible for every topic on SP.com written about TVP or each SP.com members to contact Joe and or TVP when there is a topic written about TVP. In general I do not feel it's possible nor realistic to contact Alex Jones, David Ike, or TVP, when we write a topic involving those people and or groups. However in general if I feel it's needed to contact these groups and or people to get either a perspective or better understanding on a particular topic then I will do so through e-mail only though ( in the case of TVP I will ask a TVP representative on on TVP.com to get in contact with Joe through e-mail).

At that I don't expect anybody else on SP.com to abide by this disclaimer. I thought I'd add this disclaimer because Joe was concerned about topics pertaining to TVP on SP.com. I do not think it's realistic that the atmosphere should change on SP.com but after what I would define that Joe put up a passionate discussion I thought it would be a good idea to acknowledge Joe's side as well as he is the official representative of TVP and he would be talking behalf of TVP as well even if i do not agree with everything he said. I think I made this disclaimer on good faith to suggest that SP.com members are individuals who are more than willing to listen to others.

If anybody has a problem with what someone writes on SP.com please contact me or someone else on SP.com and we will figure something out.

I hope this disclaimer is good enough for Joe/TVP. I do not believe I have posted anything personal in nature between the conversation between me and Joe (though I could be wrong) and have made a effort to keep it broad but still managing to get the overview of the conversation said between me and Joe. If Joe or a official representative from TVP disagree's with the disclaimer or wants me to consider revising it please contact me through e-mail at cs2012ct at ymail dot com

Thanks to Russell Brand for re-tweeting about Paradise or Oblivion.
We hope to hear his reaction about our documentary. In the meantime, feel free to respond to his twitter post. Let's keep the momentum going!

As always, thank you for your support.

FB commenter: Hopefully this will get us more exposure through all media

The Venus Project - Global: yes!=)

FB commenter: Emily, I told you this is what Brand was chatting about!

FB commenter: Russell Brand is behind this? That's a huge deal

The Venus Project - Global: yes JT, it is a huge deal, very wonderful!

FB commenter: He is a sexy bitch glad he re tweeted. some people said they were inspired by the film. Good to hear

FB commenter: it would be a great response from the TVP community to retweet. That is for whomever has a twitter account.

FB commenter: The Venus Project - Global You should also consider talking with Oliver Stone.

The Venus Project - Global: we would love to!

Joe Parks: It's great that Russell knows about Paradise or Oblivion, but we've yet to see how he responds to it. Hopefully it will be favorable.

FB commenter: Positivity attracts positivity.

FB commenter: He's a good man, doing good work.

FB commenter: Finally. Following his recent outbursts, I've posted several times that Russell Brand needs to discover TVP. Hopefully it will have the same eureka effect on him that it had on me.

FB commenter: finally some momentum

FB commenter: That is awesome news

FB commenter: Awesome... He's a good human!

FB commenter: Excellent idea to capitalize on the current coverage of Russell Brand - hope your idea gets out to the masses.

FB commenter: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/05/huffruss-russell-brand-in-conversation-with-mehdi-hasan_n_4221633.html

FB commenter: its nice to see that you guys made a connection

The Venus Project - Global post on FB:

Hey everyone, in light of Russell Brand's viral BBC interview we've been getting alot of suggestions to try and contact him to discuss TVP and RBE. Here's how you can help. Please go to his facebook page found here:
https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand
and post the following message:

"A world without politics, poverty and war can be achieved by the intelligent use and distribution of resources as well as using technology and science to benefit all the worlds inhabitants equally. In fact Jacque Fresco (often referred to as the modern day Leonardo da Vinci) has been working on a realistic and viable plan to make this a reality through what he calls a resource based economy (RBE).
Please take the time to view this short documentary which briefly explains how an RBE would work, and what implications it would have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag&feature=c4-overview&list=UUPNMR_iABvyFmc3G9i1r3Lw
The Venus Project's website can be found here:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/about/aims-and-proposals"

Please keep in mind to effectively communicate the aims and proposals of TVP it is important to refer Russell to official TVP sources to be properly educated, unless you have a very thorough education in The Venus Project, giving the wrong impression of what TVP is could be more detrimental than helpful.

TVP FB commenter: He is already aware of it, he just isn't going to mention it yet because that will cause it to get ridiculed, and people will think he has gone mad. He is going about it intelligently by the looks of it.

TVP FB commenter: he already mentioned it kieran=)

TVP FB commenter: he would be the best ambassador for tvp

TVP FB commenter: I like to believe that none of us really want to fight against one another, to battle and compete against one another, to strive toward seeking and getting and taking from one another for our own survival, living, development and unfolding. I believe, within ourselves, we are all holding Infinite Love, Light, Peace, Brotherhood, Highness and Unity. It is just the external circumstances that are being imposed upon ourselves presently, from how we are letting and accepting the world to be right now, the constant external pressures, the scarcity, the obligations being forced upon us all that make us fight, battle, compete, bite, kick, hit, outrun, put down and exploit one another, but not really Who and How We Really Are within, not really this being our intrinsic Human Nature, but rather, only having these behaviours coming from the present external conditions and different constant and continous pressures imposed upon ourselves. I believe we all deeply desire for ourselves and for all True Peace, Brotherhood, Family, Self-Development, Unity, Sharing & Generosity, Meaningful and Authentic Relationships, Freedom & Highness, Equality & Justice, Community, Artistic and Creative Expression and our own Self-Realization. It is however only because we are obligated to pay for our own presence and existence here on earth, with everything having a price tag because we presently are accepting the individual privatization of Our resources, which belong to all Equally, without exception, as well as accepting a culture that mostly only promotes individual, egoist and selfish gains, the promotion of one single individual over all others as being what Success is, as well as supporting a culture that simply promotes and encourages global competition and opposition of us against one another, where for one to win another has to lose, with activities such as professional sports in which most of them violence is accepted, promoted and especially encouraged. I believe we would all like to live as a great big Family in a Free and Peaceful and Loving and Sharing Community, it is just that we are presently accepting our own division, our own separation from one another and even from Ourselves, our own battling and fighting against our own Race, against our own Brothers and Sisters, against our own Family, not as much because we really love this, not because it is really our Nature, but rather because, it seems sometime, that the whole present way the world subjectively is constructed - as it could very well be another way if we would simply choose it to make it so, as the world and our way of living and being are nothing else but what we ourselves make it to be, or accept it to be, and nothing else, only the outer expression and product of the whole of the People, done so Consciously or as presently unconsciously - is meant at making us have to fight and battle and compete for our own survival and living, fight and battle and competition exerced against one another, barely making it enough for us to live, unless we start hitting, kicking, screaming, fighting and battling harder, or the hardest. I feel deep down within myself that living and being here, one with another, isn't meant to be a fight, a battle, a race nor a competition, but rather a big and whole global expression of Unity, of Family, of Connection, of Peace, of Love, of Sharing, of Self-Realization, but sometimes, it feels as if we, and the whole Human Race, the whole Planet Earth, have been hijacked, as if something was draining us from our own Life, our Life Force, of all of our Energy, like a life-vampire, like a leech, like a parasite, sucking the very last little bit of life and energy from us they can get from us all, taking everything they can get from us, and we ourselves, out of unconsciousness of Who We Truly Are, our unawareness of our Intrinsic Infinite Highness, of our Wholesomeness, from our own Absence of Ourselves, we have been accepting this way of being and of living with one another, here on Earth, on this beautiful blue planet lost in this infinite dark sea of nothingness, only seeking to fight and battle harder and harder against one another to survive, to live and to improve, simply because of being in a particular system subjectively designed that pressures us and obliges us to do so at the detriment of our Unity, Peace, Love, Harmony and Connection between us all, a system we have never really questioned much so far but simply unconsciously accepted simply because it is the way it is presently, when if we would just come back to Ourselves, we would connect back with the Truth of our Being, with our Universality and Connection with one another, and then we could start looking to find to build a way of Being and of Living with one another, a world for Ourselves and for All, where we don't have to bite, to hit, and to kick to survive and to live, a place where True Equality, Justice, Freedom and Sharing are the foundations of our living with one another, in Peace, Harmony, Highness, Love and Light, having our True Selves being the centre of this New World, being both the Artist as well as the Protector of our New Way of Living and Being with one another. Peace, Love & Highness Book project "Being & Freedom ‐ The Life of Being" ‐ A Book about becoming back Truly Ourselves, in all of our Might, Light, Highness, Love & Freedom, Free to All, all are Welcome ~Love & Light :)

TVP FB commenter: He's definitely aware now
https://twitter.com/rustyrockets/statuses/398764540839886848?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

TVP FB commenter: That takes a while. Sounds like he's got the right sociology attitude but without the human behavior education it's a pipe dream

Quote from anticultist

TVP/TZM will take anyone.

Some news events are so momentous they instantly become burned into the memory - as irreversibly as an iOS firmware upgrade. For example, I'll never forget where I was when the Berlin Wall came down.

I was still a schoolboy: in prep school in Geneva, trying to buy heroin. But 23 years later, everything about that day comes flooding back to me so vividly.

Achtung Baby... "We are a Grandmother"... Ninety Nine Red Balloons, Floating In The Summer Sky. (Thank you for that timeless classic, Nico!)

Or .... was I actually in Goa, trying to buy heroin? Never mind. The Wall had came down, and Es Tut Mir Leid, Herr Dumpty, we will not give you Planning Consent to put it back up again.

It wasn't all good memories, though.

When my father, the financier and diplomat Gilbert Xavier de Bong was a schoolboy, his own father had caught him smoking. In the family tradition, he sat his son down with a full packet of cigarettes and made him smoke each one, until the packet was empty. He matched him smoke for smoke. It worked, and Papa never touched a cigarette again. So imagine my discomfort, then, when my father paid me a rare and unexpected visit to the boarding school in Geneva, only to catch me with several back copies of Color Climax. Let's just say the next two hours were rather excruciating for both of us.

But I digress.

In the years to come, we'll look back on the autumn of 2013 as equally historic and epoch-defining. Thanks to two people.

First, there was Russell Brand's electrifying, unifying declaration about profits. "I say profit is a filthy word, because wherever there is profit there is also deficit," said the Bard of Essex.

Here was one generation of popular entertainer speaking truth to power - or more precisely, to an a slightly older TV personality.

Some people argued this was hypocritical. Brand needs money too, they said. Of course he does. He needs to buy eyeliner and sex toys as much as the next former Radio 2 presenter. But what Brand was saying was that there is more to life than vulgar Mammon. You can Exit before achieving a successful Business Model.

The other historic contribution came from Emily Bell, a visionary who brought gurus like Jeff Jarvis and Clay Shirky to advise The Guardian newspaper - so it could make its historic pivot from an analogue era print dinosaur into a data-driven coffee chain of one.

"Costs are no longer tied to the ebb and flow of market revenue," wrote Bell, describing how the Guardian was not a business any more, but "an intervention". Lots of similar interventions, she wrote, were creating "an irrational market for journalism".

Brand and Bell. Think Watson and Crick. But social.

Now if you can't make head or tail of Bell - if it sounds like a chimpanzee drawing words at random out of a hat - then I think you're missing the other vital ingredient.

Brand explained that a central administrative committee dividing up the world's resources was the next stage in human evolution - beyond the sham of democracy we have today. But to get there we would need to reach a state of higher consciousness. This is something I have sought myself, most recently by sniffing 3D printing polymers straight off the print head.

Here is Russell explaining it to the always sensible political philosopher Alex Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkWWaOp7Zb0

And on a YouTube channel devoted to expanding your cosmic consciousness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYpHFwcITI




So how can we make this happen? Well one way is to start lots of companies that never make money, then direct the power of the state to support them. Nothing is fairer than spreading the "cost" of an unprofitable business equally throughout the community.

Think about it.

If what Russ says about profits is true ("there must be a deficit"), then the opposite must also be true. Where there is a loss, then everyone gains a little surplus. The more money I lose, the more you make. I'm basically stuffing money into your pocket.

Brand and Bell's revolution is already under way. But instead of the Berlin Wall coming down, it's the Pay Wall that's coming down. ®