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KingDavid8Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:03
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I saw this on a Zeitgeist thread on YouTube:

"I want to start a revolution. If I could get together at least 2-3 million people, we would make it happen. People ask me "How will we revolutionize against the bankers and the false government?" I tell them to simply "STOP". And they ask me what do I mean. I say again, "Just STOP". They say "Stop What?".....

STOP EVERYTHING, STOP DRIVING YOUR CAR, STOP GOING TO THE STORE, STOP RIDING THE BUS, STOP GOING TO WORK, STOP GOING TO CHURCH...

We have to force these people to submit to what we want.

What happens when the bankers have no more money circulating? They lose their power. People then tell me "But if we all stopped doing everything, than we would all go to jail." Not if you have such a massive amount of people boycotting at once. They won't have any way of keeping up with us. If we had at least 2 million people boycotting the same way at once, than things would drastically change immediately.

Of coarse it will be hard, but this is necessary for our human civilization.

We have to make sure we gather the necessities such as water and food. Because a boycott as epic as what I'm talking about will be a very long one. And it's the only way we can end this. The bankers and politicians will try and persuade us that we need the monetary system in order to thrive and they will try to persuade through the media. Church preachers and the like will try their hardest to keep people going to church so they will stimulate your faith. But you have to break away from it!!"

My response:

"True that the people who join in your boycott wouldn't end up in jail, but they would end up unemployed and homeless, and far worse off than the bankers and government. The "authorities" would get by just fine on the hundreds of millions of people who didn't join in your boycott. The people who would get the short end of it are the 2-3 million who joined in on it. I can't see what would be gained from it. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:07
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Most Zeitgeisters don't have jobs so it wouldn't make much of an economic impact.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:10
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If 2 to 3 million people can just 'stop' things and create a revolution then 20 million hippies should have done the same thing, but they didn't.

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anticultistPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:15
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He is also overlooking the point that the 2-3 million people would not all be in the same location or country, therefore its impact would be meaningless and the local community would not even feel the effects of a few people dotted about the globe in different areas just 'stopping'.

And if he is talking about 2-3million people stopping in one country or one place then it still wont have any impact on the national or the global economic climate, it will only affect local businesses and local economies.

He is clearly ignorant to the real details of what he is asking and has just thrown his idea together with little consideration of what the impacts would really be.

What would happen if 2-3 million people 'stopped' in New York lets say?

The rest of the 10 - 17 million or so people would continue working.

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=uspopulation&met=population&idim=state:36000&dl=en&hl=en&q=how+many+people+in+new+york

These 'dissenters' would be fired and have no way of supporting themselves, and the unemployment statistics would sky rocket for a moment, there would be a brief drop and spike in certain markets and trade incomes then the companies would just re recruit new people from the unemployment line quickly and life would go on.

They would make a quick news flash covering it on tv nationally, it would not be a big story worldwide unless it actually tipped any markets.

So yeah I dont see how that idea would do much.

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sorryPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:16
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According to "three", he would need 70 million supporters, not 2-3.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:19
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He's just milking the marks on the lecture circuit in his last years. The guy's a nobody.

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anticultistPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:22
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Then he would be asking about 4 major US cities to stop at once, in one country to have an impact, that would have an economic impact, but look at the statistics of people who would be happy to get their jobs.

There are 300+ million people in the USA it would only be less than a quarter of the population joining in.

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=uspopulation&met=population&idim=state:36000&dl=en&hl=en&q=how+many+people+in+new+york#met=population&idim=state:36000&tdim=true

It would just be a switch of positions of unemployed to being employed and vice versa, there is no time for moral compass in the world of business, the world wont stop because a few million neo hippies want to do nothing.

It would only fuck up the USA, the rest of us would get by while the USA struggled a little bit for a short while.

Again worldwide it would have no impact, particularly if they were all dotted about everywhere.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 22:20
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Even IN the US, what would 1% "striking" really change?

Atlas Shrugged of the bizarro dimension, all the jobless teenagers don't go to work anymore. What a disaster!

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Ninja RPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 23:32
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Do Zeitgeist people have imaginary conversations with themselves all the time?

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anticultistPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 23:34
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yes theyre always talking at you and not listening to what you say because you are wrong

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sorryPosted: Jun 28, 2010 - 23:34
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Wouldn't it be something if all Zeitgeist members were really just different personalities of Merola?

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NanosPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 00:16
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> would need 70 million supporters

So, 70 million unemployed homeless penniless folk then..

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