Skeptic Project

I would hazard a best guess of altruistic.

Though, I can imagine people thinking they are for the ultra-wealthy, as those are the only kind of folk that could afford such things nowdays.

But..

If you just look at Tata-housing for example, many of their designs have that TVP feel, and they are sold very cheaply!

http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/2009/06/the-model-t-house.html</p>

As such, I reckon we could do far better building designs cheaply, which are not just for the ultra-wealthy, but at least for the poor of developed countries such as UK/US.

Though I would go more for earth sheltered designs myself than skyscrapers.

> Altruists sell DVD packs of shit available for free online for 300 dollars?

Well, even Altruists have to pay the rent..

But I do agree, charging for that aspect is not something I'm in agreement with, nor does it look good either.

What should be happening is he should find some other way to make an income.

It clearly looks like Jacque copied Walt Disney and his team's Epcot designs for his VP circular city. http://www.omniluxe.net/wyw/epcot.htm</p>

Add Marxism, B.F. Skinner's behaviorism, Francis Bacon's "The New Atlantis" writing, and Fresco once being a member of Technocracy Incorporated that emerged in the 1930s, and you also get the main theme of where Jacque could of gotten his ideas for TVP.

He also jacked stuff from Fuller.

I have wondered if Merola called him up and they made some deal to make a buck off the rabble of goofy kids he had recruited on his forum.

Fresco owns a pretty big chunk of land and he flies all over the world. I don't think he could do this on Social Security.

Well doesn't he have to pay taxes on that land and the bills from conventional energy? Not to mention Internet connections and just the money it requires to stay aloat. And pay for plane tickets and hotel rooms and eating out? Plus Roxanne is in tow.

He has to be getting money from somewhere. Maybe selling 300 dollar DVD packs.

Neither Fresco or Merola live a lifestyle I consider to be remotely close to what it should be.

So would I.

VTV is the only one who has a lifestyle I can understand.

Seriously where are these people getting the money to live these pretty extravagant lifestyles?

I would like to know.

It looks like most of Jacque's sources of income was based on selling videos on how to draw, videos about TVP, futuristic fantasy books, and doing lecture tours trying to come off as a Buckminster Fuller personality. But unlike Fuller, he has no real world applications and no recognition by fellow engineers and architects.

Yep...in his mind it is most likely, "where can I get a quick buck for a person looking to get a quick fantasy fix?"

Whilst we are throwing abit of mud about, everyone seems to have forgotten (Or maybe you don't know..) about the charge to visit Fresco that often used to get mentioned on the forum. People who went there, would insist they was told, pay up or you can't come in, to the tune of a couple of hundred dollars. Whilst on the forums, we would be told its 'optional'.. thats if we was told at all.. being that at first, the issue was ignored, followed by, its not important to answer it even..

Then there was some careful wording of replies that could sound either way..

Now, I don't mind people charging, as long as they mention there is a charge up front in advance!

Not wait until folk get there and then spring it on them, and if they say no, get all arsy about it and make it sound like its a must do thing, all the time using just the right words so you can deny you said any such thing, even if it sounded awfully like it..

It did make me wonder, now, would I charge for new friends to visit me..

No, I don't think I would.

I can understand why they would, but I don't think its a good way to make friends!

Anyhow, thats about the only mayor thing connected with this particular thread that pissed me off about them, the awful trouble we had trying to get them to just answer the damn question of 'do you or do you not charge for visitors'...

I'm reminded of job interviews, where people ask you this long and complicated answer, and your supposed to give a long and complicated reply, why not just say yes or no if its that simple!

"People who went there, would insist they was told, pay up or you can't come in, to the tune of a couple of hundred dollars. Whilst on the forums, we would be told its 'optional'.. thats if we was told at all.. being that at first, the issue was ignored, followed by, its not important to answer it even.."

That's interesting.

The whole thing looks just as dubious as VTVs chip-ins, $200 monthly for internet? Seriously?

But hey, as long as people have dumb money, somebody's gonna take it.