Skeptic Project

http://consumerist.com/2010/10/pinnacle-of-simcity-urban-planning-is-totalitarian-death-state.html</p>

^ lol

TVP debunked. Done and done

This reminds me of this show I watched on discovery channel called factory city, it was about people in china who worked at this factory that made George Foreman style grills..........they lived in company provided apartments across the street and all the amenites they needed were within walking distance.

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Vincent+Ocasla&init=quick&tas=search_preload#!/vincentocasla

vincent ocasla from TVP group ?

I had seen this name before and wondered if its him.

ah ok hes imperar from the forum, yeah hes a douche bag

Has he had any success with that ?

Nah, he's just on some paid blogging sites.

Regarding the city:

That's what I'm surprised TZM doesn't get: Science can only be used if you have a goal, something you're looking for. That guy was looking for maximum population and found the best city possible for that.

"Maximum happiness / sustainability / freedom" or whatever we'd actually look for in a city is not only hard to measure, but also so broad that you'll most certainly get arguments among the "interdisciplinary teams" about what the "right" definition of the TVP cities goal actually should be.

Matt, I'm pretty sure he read your mind on that one.

> "Maximum happiness / sustainability / freedom" or whatever we'd actually look for in a
> city is not only hard to measure, but also so broad that you'll most certainly get
> arguments among the "interdisciplinary teams" about what the "right" definition of the
> TVP cities goal actually should be.

Indeed.

Perhaps we can list what would be happiness factors.

I might suggest plenty of parking spaces to be one. (I hear up to 30% of traffic in the centre of a town is people going around and around looking for parking!)

Seats wide enough on public transport to be comfortable with enough leg room..

If we instead designed not for max population, how different could the solution be ?

As my thinking is, we shouldn't design for a max population, but max happiness, which would probably mean less than a max population..

I know. My "TVP debunked" thing was tongue-in-cheek.

Perhaps we can list what would be happiness factors.

Maybe you should do a study

I might suggest plenty of parking spaces to be one. (I hear up to 30% of traffic in the centre of a town is people going around and around looking for parking!)

For...which town?