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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 09:29
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LOL

peterjoseph wrote:
'is so hilarious because it shows that those who ask such questions refuse to examine the component processes which have already gone through those tests and have been proven a 1000 times over to be successful and applicable.'

Can I ask what those tests were exactly?

Merola's response:

No, you can't

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 09:44
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He would make such a great dad.

"I have proven in the past that I am very generous."
"Can I have $5?"
"No."

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:01
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Why anyone would take Merola seriously is totally beyond me. What a tool.

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NanosPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:02
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"Daddy where do babies come from ?"

"Watch this movie.."

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EdPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:14
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CS, I wonder when that guy will be banned :D

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:16
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I wonder why I'm still unbanned. Well, I'm playing it nice, I give you that.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:19
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Ed, I'm surprised Merola responded to him and didn't delete the post.

I have a small feeling that this entire thread will be deleted when it's all said and done. Merola will decide that this is a waste of time (mainly because it will make him and his ideas look really bad) and will erase everything.

And yea, I have no idea why CyborgJesus isn't banned.

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:23
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CyborgJesus was an inside job.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:24
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Until we have the carrying capacity of the earth noted and a direct account of proven component technical methods for whatever purposes deemed possible by that stage of scientific evolution (the level of that stage means nothing as well)- quantified and interrelated through various matrices (computer algorithms) - no absolute variables/ratios can be put in place. But that changes nothing. The entire system could be mathematically represented with arbitrary variable quantities and it would still be viable as an approach.

word salad

and an admission that TVP is not based on quantitative data

This thread is *the* epitomy of Peter Joseph Merola and his life work. This will summarize everything he stands for and all evidence he has for such.

And it will end in total failure.

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NanosPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:27
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CS is the new Nanos!

Who will remain for another 4,000 posts and then one day, when he says the wrong thing..

Or maybe..

PJ/etc. has learn't from the previous bannings and is going to be sensible this time and let some debate occur..

Or it might be because you have money..

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:36
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Which I stand by completely for everything you just pointed out is another regurgitation of assumptions which are intrinsically self-evident to the total system's application and those variables - regardless of the outcome - change nothing with regard to the approach itself.

If anybody here honestly thinks that there is some meaning to these words, tell me. I don't get it.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 11:02
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Merola's posts this morning are mostly word salads. The goal now is to figure out why (as if anyone really cares).

1. He's high / not sober

2. He's so offended and distraught over this thread that he can't type coherently.

3. He's the creator of Zeitgeist.

A. 1
B. 2
C. 3
D. 1 & 2
E. 1 & 3
F. 2 & 3
G. 1, 2, & 3

This sort of thing should be part of the Conspiracy Science entrance exam.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 11:46
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This topic is the day of redemption for Peter Merola and Fresco, and the zeitgeist movement and venus project. They managed to fail at that. The only thing, VTV, and peter Merola managed to do is not have scientific method around anything. This my friends is what you call a cult.

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anticultistPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:22
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I hope people have been screen grabbing this debate over there for later evidence of BS from them.

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:26
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If this is what happens when Merola debates some nobody from the Colbert Report forums, its probably best that TZM just stays in the bunker.

Could you imagine Merola debating someone on live television?

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:29
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He had an interview on radio once, and the interviewer was still pretty nice. At least at the beginning.

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:32
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Word salad doesn't work so good when it has to come out of your mouth.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:40
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Which I stand by completely for everything you just pointed out is another regurgitation of assumptions which are intrinsically self-evident to the total system's application and those variables - regardless of the outcome - change nothing with regard to the approach itself.

This has some really poor gramatical structure and punctuation which muddle an already muddled meaning.

I refuse to change my position because everything you just said is simply a restatement of old ideas, and your new variables don't change anything.

Which basically is saying: Thisost was meant to read like high-minded, well articulated jargon but came out word vomit.

As my Freshman year humanities teacher once said "A shit statement is a shit statement no matter what thesaraus you use."

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 13:50
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VTV writes:

That is true, but it was engineered to be that way. And it can be engineered to not be that way.

I love how he denies the conspiratorial aspect of TVP but then makes these statements that boil down to: The wealthy and powers that be actively worked to make us selfish, self-interested consumer zombies.

Look, that's not how social dynamics NOR how culture form. In my RBE article he did nothing but deny the ideological genealogy from which TVP and RBE emerges. Now he's trying to say that social dynamics and culture are something over which culturally constrained actors have agency over? I'm sorry, but this is a crock of shit that was exposed with the Culture and personality School of the mid twentieth century- and even they didn't make such an asinine leap!

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anticultistPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:02
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@Matt

If Merola ever makes it to the status of being considered worthy of interview on major television channels, I think its fair to say that he is going to be annihalated by the experts brought in. They will pretty much carve him a new arse and I for one will take great pleasure in posting it online for everyone to watch on repeat.

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:15
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But TZM has to work. Its VTV's main source of income!

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anticultistPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:36
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Thats ok VTV has the habit of jumping ship and changing his allegiances and causes. He will always be ok to make an income from members of whatever group he chooses to join. His moral compass wont be affected by something so small as a change of movement and direction should he need to.

No fear VTV will make his incoming from plenty of suckers anywhere.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:42
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Whatever happened with that tea party nomination? I assume VTV lost?

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:49
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No, he won. But that "party" only exists on the Internet. Some kind of virtual party. It doesn't really exist in Realworldistan.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 14:56
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Maybe TZM should consider trying their society in Second Life.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 15:28
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@CS I have come to the conclusion that second life scripting language is pretty limited if you wanted to create a RBE environment from my experience with second life. It also uses a lot of system resources. As well as owning land on 2nd life exactly free.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 15:35
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jeez, RBE can't even work in virtual reality! :)

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anticultistPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 15:38
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@CS

TZM already have a second life account and team working on TVP in there. no shit it was or still is even advertised on their front page of the TZM site, I have a screen grab somewhere if its removed

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 15:54
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Second Life is fucking stupid.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 16:00
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That's why I suggested it.

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