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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 17:56
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Dr. Peter Merola has yet came up with a NEW conspiracy theory that google is out to get him! Ah, a typical conspiracy theorist at work here. Peter you found us out conspiracy science took you off google top ten and put all relevant things about Zeitgeist from "the zeitgeist movement exposed" "the zeitgeist movement cult" "zeitgeist debunked" "zeitgeist addendum debunked" "the venus project scam" "the venus project cult" "jacque fresco fraud""jacque fresco scam" on the google top ten. Again we come across some question about Peter when looking at these post such as is Peter Joseph Merola the leader of the Zeitgeist movement, and Peter has been there and knows; people including google does not get it..

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http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572#295572

Check this out. I'm not jumping to any conclusions but I find this to be very interesting.

For the past 3 years if you Google "Zeitgeist" zeitgeistmovie.com would come up #1. Same for "Zeitgeist Movie" or, of course,"zeitgeistmovie.com"

Now? Nothing. Evidently zeitgeistmovie.com doesn't even exist in their search engine website database for it is nowhere to be found.

LOL

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572&limit=10&limitstart=10#295599

On that note: The Zeitgeist Movie wikipedia page was taken over long ago by 2-5 anti-Z kids who sit there all day and make sure they reach "consensus" amongst themselves to perpetuate the most bland and subtly negative page description they can have. Anytime someone comes in to make the page more balanced - they swarm in and remove all such changes by claiming there was no "consensus".

This is a a classic example of how so called "democracy" fails. Wikipedia is awful when it comes to anything that generates an emotional response. Art related issues should not even exist on that site for the bias is won by the most persistent and not the most objective.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572&limit=10&limitstart=10#295623

zeitgeist related materials have been scammed for money over and over again. before Addendum was released, a site came up promoting it like a fan site- getting traffic- only to then illegally offer a dvd (during the Artivists premier) for sale before it was ever out on dvd - gaining 100s of orders - I learned- after my lawyers shut them down.

This time around, if I see anything like that - I will sue - not just shut down and look the other way. It isnt about money- it is about this disgusting vulture, parasitic culture which continues to see no limits. Patchwork? Yes - but until we get out of this horrible system we have no choice but to fight. Its sad - but I refuse to be pushed around anymore.

So - every single site i see which looks like my site or the like is suspect. I'm not saying they are trying to be misleading, but I know how monetary criminality works.

Such redundancy serves zero role. Why make a "fan site" which is exactly the same as the original? They also have a mailing list? For what?! Are they going to know something before I do?

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SkyPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 18:05
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Peter probably just screwed up something in the HTML when he updated the site.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:30
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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Zeitgeist

First result:

The Zeitgeist Film Series Gateway | Zeitgeist: The Movie ...
Oficial Site for 'Zeitgeist: The Movie', 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' and 'Zeitgeist: Moving Forward' by Peter Joseph.
www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Screenshot: http://conspiracyscience.com/images/screenshots/tzm-google-censoring-omfg-evil.png</p>

Maybe results for New World Order members are better?

Though, he does realize that results can be different based on region, or you can even set personal settings when logged in to Google where certain results won't pop up also. Then again he's been "doing this for years" so of course he knows the only logical assumption is that Google is censoring Zeitgeist, when they never censored Jew Watch or Xenu.net (except the latter was moved to second place). Also, for someone doing this for years, he's still attempting the hidden text trick that hasn't worked for years, lol.

I just love how he says that he isn't jumping to conclusions, but... the world's largest search engine is censoring a shitty movie. How is this any different from when that idiot ChangeDaChannel had someone guess his password and they deleted his videos and that means there was a vast conspiracy over at YouTube to censor The Obama Deception?

It's ravings of the paranoid.

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On a side note, notice how he's blocking archive.org now? Funny.

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SkyPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:38
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I googled "Zeitgeist Movie" right after Billl posted this and it didn't work for me, but now it does. My guess is that he fixed it by changing the HTML and didn't realize that Google doesn't update instantaneously. I wonder what they'll do next, probably close that forum post so that people cant comment on his embarrassing mistake lol.

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Caramel ColorPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:40
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hey sailor

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On that note: The Zeitgeist Movie wikipedia page was taken over long ago by 2-5 anti-Z kids who sit there all day and make sure they reach "consensus" amongst themselves to perpetuate the most bland and subtly negative page description they can have. Anytime someone comes in to make the page more balanced - they swarm in and remove all such changes by claiming there was no "consensus".

This is a a classic example of how so called "democracy" fails. Wikipedia is awful when it comes to anything that generates an emotional response. Art related issues should not even exist on that site for the bias is won by the most persistent and not the most objective.

They say stuff like this, but in their utopian future, everyone's just supposed to agree?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:41
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>> They say stuff like this, but in their utopian future, everyone's just supposed to agree?

Well, those who disagree will be labeled "non-members" and be banned from life with a bullet or large ax.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:42
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>> I googled "Zeitgeist Movie" right after Billl posted this and it didn't work for me, but now it does. My guess is that he fixed it by changing the HTML and didn't realize that Google doesn't update instantaneously.

My random, completely unscientific guess is that it was probably a propagation error when the page was updated, so it took a while for it to update across the google super-database.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:44
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you know what I'm going to screen grab this, and the thought for the screen grab is to suggest peter is mentally Ill conspiracy theorist, granted I am only a medical student.

Also Peter has such a big ego he almost "expects" to be number one and if it's not it must be a conspiracy against him BY GOOGLE! Peter has such an ego I bet he googles Zeitgeist everyday to make sure he's on the top... Well I wonder if Peter Merola is going to admit he's wrong this time, that google is in fact not after him, google could give a shit about zeitgeist.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:49
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Jeez, he's had this movement for two years and he sounds condescending like Stalin after ten years in the party.

They could make a video game out of this, like "Educate & Enlighten Green Alert 2: Peters Revenge". I'd buy one.

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SkyPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:54
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On that note: The Zeitgeist Movie wikipedia page was taken over long ago by 2-5 anti-Z kids who sit there all day and make sure they reach "consensus" amongst themselves to perpetuate the most bland and subtly negative page description they can have. [...] Art related issues should not even exist on that site for the bias is won by the most persistent and not the most objective.

It sounds like what he is saying is that the most objective person to write the Wikipedia article about himself is himself. lol. douchbag.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:57
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>> On that note: The Zeitgeist Movie wikipedia page was taken over long ago by 2-5 anti-Z kids who sit there all day and make sure they reach "consensus" amongst themselves to perpetuate the most bland and subtly negative page description they can have. Anytime someone comes in to make the page more balanced - they swarm in and remove all such changes by claiming there was no "consensus".

This is how imdb works, which is probably the only reason Zeitgeist, The Movie is on there. Second, when you have members -- maybe even PJ himself -- constantly editing TZM-related articles to read like advertisements created by Don Draper, people are going to contest it.

Lest we also forget TZM members constantly deleting everything in the criticism section, because as we all are well aware, only people who are mentally ill could possibly disagree with Peter Joseph and his agenda.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 20:57
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Didn't Alex Jones pull this same stunt as well about google being after him?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:12
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He did indeed Billll, multiple times I think, but of course when distributed map-reduce or whatever finally catches up with itself and results return to normal, all of a sudden the conspiracy is over.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:14
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Ordo Ab Chao.

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Yup, Merola has officially joined the leagues...

Alex Jones, meet your successor.

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Caramel ColorPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:16
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hey sailor

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Why is there even a wiki page for Zeitgeist? Or is every fringe group that is sure they're going to change the world on there now?

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:19
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Hey Peter didn't you know Alex Jones already did it!

Found the Alex Jones spiel about google. I got some more Peter Merola stuff in that thread. i knew the dude was making out on his dvd's no question about it he's rolling in the money.

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Google denies sales of Alex Jones new film

Description: Alex Jones is a familiar face here on RT, he hosts his own radio show in Austin, Texas and recently made a film called "Fall of the Republic, the Presidency of Barack Obama". The film criticizes Obama's administration, but when he went to sell it on google's shopping site, he was told he couldn't. Jones says that google wants to dominate the market and is being discriminatory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoLcUKJfgk

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Peter Merola post:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572&limit=10&limitstart=40#295887

Good!
I bitched and complained... explained the large following and that it appeared like censorship... The only change I made was I brought up some "hidden" text on the site. Text which was not misleading and only mirrored the text I had in images on the page- which could not be seen by a search engine- and it had been there for years. That might have been their original excuse... in the end- it is really wrong for them to create a near search engine monopoly and then be able to sort/delete the way they choose - with zero warning to the site owner. It opens the gates to all sorts of censorship possibilities. Anyway... lets hope it stays up because the short time is was down killed my $5 dvd sales- the little amount that I get these days- which i very much need as the new film inches into $200k mark in budget- far beyond what i expected... and still growing.

argh

Peter Merola post:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572&limit=10&limitstart=40#295892

Well, i usually include work hours as well when I generalize a budget, the 200k is actually not counting my 50$ an hour standard rate - Since i do all the music/editing/most animation/preproduction - Time is Money in this system - that would put the film into the 250-280k mark as of the 1.5 years it has taken.

Z1 was made for zero money initially - because it was 100% illegal and never meant to be released- but after the cost of getting rights it ended up about $35,000 in materials and another $30,000 in time spent = $65,000

Z2 was about $70,000 in materials and $50,000 in time. = $120,000 That Jiddu Krishnamurti clip alone was 18,000$.

Z3 has required two studio shoots - 70 actors/extras - extensive animation in 2 and 3d and has just been a nightmare........

Peter Merola post:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=295572&limit=10&limitstart=40#295893

"Glad this got resolved, but we should keep an eye on it! What is the reason for the YouTube results? There IS discrepancy there too right?"

ugh... yeah- i know. one battle at a time

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Sil the ShillPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:50
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I stayed away from TZM stuff on this forum for a long time because it didn't really interest me as much as the other topics on this site. I regret that, because where ever TZM goes... hilarity follows. And I feel I missed out on so many lulz.

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sorryPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:51
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This is the first time TZM has been funny / interesting in ages. I don't think you've been missing much, Sil.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:52
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Sure it has! Since I started following it, I've been treated to many topics full of VTV jokes, backpeddling, and that whole "INTO THE BUNKERS" mentality.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 21:57
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So how many of you guys could gather hundreds of thousands of dollars to make films that apparently no one buys (as I'm told in response to my movie cost article)?

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CyborgJesusPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 22:03
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Don't forget $10,000 godaddy hosting!

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 18, 2010 - 22:59
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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The economic system spawned 9/11! Don't you get it!

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NanosPosted: Oct 19, 2010 - 01:55
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> This is a a classic example of how so called "democracy" fails.

Indeed.

> This time around, if I see anything like that - I will sue

If only they put the effort they do into suing people (Justly if they are trying to scam.) into something more productive and build something, that would be rather nice.

I also hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot too much and try and sue sites that are actually trying to help, but didn't realise they had to get offical approval to have the same look N feel as TZM..

> Such redundancy serves zero role.

In that case, why have chapter sites and not just run everything from a central TZM site ?

Why stick with just google, aren't there a million and other video upload sites out there TZM could put stuff up on..

Really, the video should be only on the TZM site, so they can collect stats on who is watching it, as it makes you wonder if 200,000 people have viewed it, and the TZM forums don't appear to have any meaningful increase in numbers, that perhaps if 10 million people saw it, it might also make little difference.

I for one would want to know why..

(But then, I've already asked people who came to the TZM, and wandered off without saying anything, why did they leave, and the lack of anything practical to do to actually change their lives for the better was the general answer. No real surpise that eh!)

> "Educate & Enlighten Green Alert 2: Peters Revenge"

So that'll be TZM V GDI, with GDI starting with 40,000 credits and TZM with 0...

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BrentonPosted: Oct 19, 2010 - 04:46
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First result for me is Zeitgeist, too. Basically Google doesn't censor a hella lot. We know they do, but usually it's just bad programming that will alter the position of your website - meaning that the bots can't read it as well as it used to.

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