Skeptic Project

Brenton has been banned:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=60&id=154760&limit=10&limitstart=40#244776

By request of Peter Joseph, I guess he is reading this forum haha.

This is just personal opinion, I like his art work/music the way he composes his videos but thats as far as it goes period. Oh and by the way I do prefer his nick name R2D2 :p

Steve,

You said:
"Hmm I never thought of it that way before I just viewed it as entertainment. "

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"Entertainment" really has no place on such a website, especially in terms of conspiracies and fact based false claims that these films make. Even so its clearly listed under "education" not entertainment.

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You said:
"Yes we had a vote about removing The TZM links unfortunately it was denied to remove them but I do like adendum as a brief intro to RBE concept."

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I think that's fine, but I also think appropriate disclaimers and introductions on what exactly your movement or organisation is approving of in the film. I would also say exactly what you think about the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement, why you think their take on it is flawed and why you are different and better.

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You said:
"It's not harsh really you have valid points and I will add them to the critique section of RBEF so I guess as odd as it sounds I should thank you for your comments. "

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If only Peter Joseph had your attitude :)

Re: Brenton's ban:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2355/brentonban.png</p>

Here is a screenshot for future reference in case they change anything :)

(steve, I also like his music and his editing style)

Its fun they provided a link to this thread. I imagine that will do them more harm than good, I wonder if they will remove it at some point :D

@ED

""Entertainment" really has no place on such a website, especially in terms of conspiracies and fact based false claims that these films make. Even so its clearly listed under "education" not entertainment."

I will add this to the critique section as well ( I already added your previous comments btw) you are on to something.

We are also going to add an "About Us" page at some point which should clear things up.

Good feedback!

http://www.rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?f=11&t=1957

their you go Ed

Steve,

I'd provide a link to the reasons I spoke about, if I saw that I'd wonder "why?"?

"I think any improvement upon what TZM/TVP is doing shouldn't use words they use, like "resource based economy." Anything directly associated will likely make people think they movements are either one and the same, or incestuous. I'd rather not get involved with a movement that gets sucked down into the abyss when TZM implodes and takes TVP with it as well."

Funny I had a thought along those lines once as well. Either which way we are a far different group from TZM. RBEF is being structured to be a tool in which organizations can work off a collaborative platform while dealing with monetary transactions with 100% transparency through the funds tracking tool. We are looking to provide the enviorment and neceasiry funding for a mass collaberation platform for the research and transition towards an "RBE" type economic/social structure.

What are your opinions on the so called "RBE"?

So this part Tanktop said about brenton:

"Note:
Posting screenshots of private information which contain any personally identifiable content, or other confidential information, which is not otherwise publicly available is unethical, a violation of privacy, and may be a violation of law.

*UPDATE FORM PETER: We are going to allow Brenton to come back on to explain himself, as per a request he made via Email to me. "

Well if Brenton takes off their names [if its their real name, if its an internet username its completely irrelvant what tanktop is saying]its not illegal, and he can quite fairly tell people in private what and who said it, and as many as he likes.

He can publish the information as well, because they published already online regardless of whether it was in a private forum or not, if they didnt want it being published they should never of put it online thats the crux of invasion of privacy claims. Tanktop should check the precedence for these type of law disputes, they hardly ever go in favour of the person making the privacy claims because normally they are to blame for being idiots in the first place.

Yeah theyre a bunch of clowns arent they matt.

Ed I would greatly appreciate it if you stopped by our forum and ask these questions Venux is a software program being worked on by Eugene he would be able to answer your questions about that he's the software developer.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=60&id=244880

Brenton Eccles pulls a huge U turn on the ZM forum and retracts everything he said here as a personal trauma he was experiencing, and asks his members for forgiveness.

Bravo.

"I've been thinking about how to address what I've done, and though this thread that I post may come across as plain - I'm going to attempt to be sharp and specific so that what I say does not end up being taken off in 95957395357 directions.

As many of you would now well know, in the past week I've been involved in an incident completely unacceptable for someone who is known and seen to be a representative of this Movement.

I engaged in aggressive attacks not only on members whose respect had long been given to me, but upon the integrity of the structure within The Zeitgeist Movement itself - something that has proven detrimental to both myself, and many others concerned.

Certain words I used, specifically the words 'sensitive screenshots' led some to believe that I had been collating private information with the intent of using it for detrimental or covert means. This was, and is not, the case. I can see, however, how those words would be clearly taken in such light - nothing of which I referred to as 'sensitive information' involved any private areas of the site.

I know that I, as one of the members who has been here since day one, should know better - and though I am not going to attempt excuse myself entirely from my actions I would like to highlight that I've basically had the worst 7 days of my life.

The issues in that regard are very sensitive and deeply personal, but for the sake of avoiding this being labelled a cloak: if someone wants me to announce the issues here that have affected me beyond my own coping mechanisms - feel free. I'll be happy to answer (but if you'd like discretion you're welcome to e-mail me at laglegur@gmail.com), and hopefully in understanding that you'll all consider that sometimes (yes, just sometimes) we all push over and forget that it's easy just to turn the computer (or iPhone, as it be) off and seek solace in one's loved ones for solving problems as opposed to letting loose on all the work I've done and betraying many of the people that have trusted and worked with me for quite a period of time.

I am not naive to the reality that I, having been spreading this information for a long time, should know better than to feed the very forces that go to no end to smear us - often without considerations as to what we're actually all about and certainly without understanding our pivotal train of thought.

But, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes - some of us will make a big mistake.

I've likely left out a lot of stuff that's necessary to mention, but I want to stop here and give those who have merit to do so a chance to add their voice in the way that they feel necessary. I've done a rather extreme thing, though it is an inner scandal which can be overcome, and I don't expect anything of any of you - I think that's only right.

Considering that I was about to have specific tasks delegated to me, it looks like I have a lot of ground to recover - please work with me in doing so.

And if you don't want to, that's fine too.

I feel absolutely sick to my stomach writing this thread, for an issue I know didn't have to be one had I kept myself in check and remained level-headed. Nevertheless, it has happened - I hope I can move on with you all. I can't imagine stopping this work now, for controversy."

copy and past it into your browser Muertos.

What I quoted above is what Brenton said, hes saying he dosnt want to lave their movement and wants to work, and giving some excuse that his mistakes were down to his personal problems he was having.

Thats what it looks like to me.

This is very disturbing.

I really hope this is not Brenton papering over his obviously very real differences with the Zeitgeist movement for the sake of some sort of united front. If it is, I venture to say he will eventually find that it's just not worth it. His doubts about the movement won't go away.

If he's willing to continue to go out there promoting a conspiracy movement, when he himself does not believe in conspiracy theories (at least he seems to not believe in them), I'm at a loss to explain why that choice makes any sense.

I hope Brenton comes back here to address this issue.