Skeptic Project

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=244279

Oh for God's sake.

No surprise here.

In another thread, someone characterized the Zeitgeist Movement as "wacky left." But they aren't, really, left-wingers at all. It would be more accurate to describe them as "extreme right wingers stealing the left wing's thunder" -- or, perhaps, "right wing libertarianism for hippies."

Remember, left-wingers favor redistribution of wealth. To that end, a progressive income tax is essential. So too is a stable central banking system. Opposition to these things is fundamentally right wing, it seems to me.

Elsewhere, I've seen the Zeitgeist Movement described as "the Birkenstock Birch Society." I think that's a good nickname for them. Part III of Zeitgeist is, indeed, lifted straight from John Birch Society ideology.

The only thing that's strange here is New Agers embracing "Illuminati"/"New World Order" claims. That's a little like a bunch of Jews believing in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, given how New Agers are vilified in most versions of "Illuminati" grand conspiracy ideology.

I don't think they fit in the left-right spectrum.

Zeitgeisters believe in 9/11 Truth and banking conspiracies.

A lot of 9/11 Truthers were leftists who hate Bush. A small minority of 9/11 Truthers are right-wingers who want to blame it on Israel. Lots of banking conspiracy believers are tax protesters and Libertarians who hate taxes.

I think it's just a smorgasbord of nuttery without much ideological rhyme or reason. Off the cuff I'd say Fresco is probably a neo-hippie 60s leftist type and Merola is probably a neo-fascist, but that's just speculation, little more than a shot in the dark. Probably they're all too wacky to really characterize.

Muertos wrote:

A lot of 9/11 Truthers were leftists who hate Bush. A small minority of 9/11 Truthers are right-wingers who want to blame it on Israel.

You're forgetting the Alex Jones fans who make up a significant fraction of the 9/11 Truth movement. Alex Jones is decidedly right wing, at least in his economic views, although he tries to appeal to alienated people across the spectrum. And the "Illuminati"/"New World Order" grand conspiracy ideology which he promotes is derived from right wing sources.

How is Alex Jones not right wing?

His views fit well within the branch of conservatism known as paleo-conservativism. So too do Ron Paul's.