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sorry | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 19:02 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | What motive did Peter Joseph have in created such a flawed documentary? Couldn't he foresee the number of people who would uncover the lies in the video? Or does he actually believe everything in it? | |||||
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Brenton | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 19:08 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Peter considers his work to be relatively accurate. | |||||
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Suburban_Blight | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 19:08 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | i assume that because people rarely go to the effort of checking information they are given he assumed that the conspiracy theorists would lap it up,which they did while probably accussing those who disagree as not doing any research,ironic no? | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 19:40 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | I think it's just poor scholarship as well as the classic defect of conspiracy theorists, which is the inability to tell good sources from bad. People have been writing "did Jesus exist?" books for decades and you can mine whatever quotes you want out of them to support just about any theory, and the amount of lies and inaccuracies out there about 9/11 is staggering. Most 9/11 Truthers honestly believe that at least 6 of the hijackers were found alive. They don't even question the erroneous BBC story (from right after the attacks) that some of the names identified as the hijackers belonged to people who were still alive, and none of them ask the obvious questions that come after that which is, "Isn't it just people who happen to have the same name and who had nothing to do with 9/11?" and "If they really are alive, how come we haven't heard anything from them in 9 years?" or "why didn't they call a press conference proclaiming to the world that they're innocent?" Consequently, it's easy for them to believe that this very easily disproven claim is actually true. I mention this just as an example of one claim made in the film. Zeitgeist I claims the hijackers are still alive, so I assume Peter Merola believes that to be true. However, I'm not sure he really cares very much about whether any of his conspiracy claims are or are not true. Merola is interested only in conspiracy theories' value as a recruiting tool regardless of the veracity of the claims themselves. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 19:50 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Interesting. Thanks for the responses. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 20:39 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Clearly he had to wake up all the sheeple. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 20:47 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | The "alive hijackers" make absolutely no sense no matter how you look at it, so long as you think about it longer than 30 seconds. I think if Peter Joseph believed that his film was accurate at one time, he has now demonstrated that he considers the factual accuracy of his film is irrelevant. It brings people to the movement, therefore it has to be good right? | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 20:49 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | He gives his motive as its an "art piece" these days, and that in itself is truly staggering because he uses his art piece to recruit members for his movement, which is the activist arm for another unsubstantiated group [TVP] To imply Peter doesnt know its all lies, is more than likely false because he himself has tried all manner of ways to distance himself from it within his own movement and yet still publicly professes its his highest statistical recruiting tool. I think Peter knows full well now that its all bullshit [after all its been refuted time over], yet he still keeps it all available for his own suspicious agenda. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 20:53 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | An "art piece" that curiously makes a lot of factual claims. If he wants it to be an art piece he should have a disclaimer or remove his voice over and just have music and semi relevant pictures fading in and out for 2 hours. He wont do that of course, because he knows its not REALLY an "art piece" he is just trying to get away with not having to defend it anymore. :) I don't think he has tried hard to distance himself from it, he is just being very contradictory about it. I used to think he was trying to, but then he did that radio show "undebunking" and then Zeitgeistmovie.com doesn't try and separate the film from Addendum and various other reasons. I think he's been rather quite clever if this is his plan, but it worked quite well in trying to appear as if he was distancing himself but really was well aware that he didn't really want to. That would explain a lot. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Apr 03, 2010 - 20:58 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | I couldn't imagine being the leader of a movement that is based on such lies. I'd feel like an idiot giving any form of public appearance. | |||||
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Dr_Benedict_Zaroff | Posted: Apr 04, 2010 - 01:58 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | I would love to be the leader of such a movement. Sadly, there's not a whole lot of money in it. The Rev. Ivan Stang, for example, is barely scraping by. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Apr 04, 2010 - 10:52 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | @ Muertos:
Saudi Arabs don't have that many names to work with, so naturally you'll find a bunch of Saudi men with identical or similar names. That occurs with Koreans as well; look at all the Koreans named Kim. | |||||
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