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AKBastardPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:25
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He might not be a traditional redneck but you wouldn't know that from what you're telling me. I sure as hell can't tell the difference.

I grew up south of Houston, TX and the shit you are telling me would even make those rednecks facepalm.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:27
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I don't know his specific function for Ron Paul. As far as I know he was a volunteer of some sort but nothing high level. He is has no means of transportation and is pretty much house bound so I can't imagine him having the ability to be involved outside anything computer related he can engage in from home.

What I do know for certain is that he made a lot of enemies. As usual, he wanted to be in charge and kept flapping his gums, alienating everyone around him.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:28
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How much does it cost to rent a room in VTV's trailer? Is it all stanky and filthy? Have you been in it?

How did he get down to Florida to meet Jacque Fresco? Who drove him and where did the money come from?

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:28
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Snob,

He definitely has white trash tendencies, thats for sure.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:30
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Sorry Mack, I wasn't clear enough.

What I meant was, the political function where his ex-wife met her new man, was this a Ron Paul event?

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:32
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The rent he charges depends on the size of the room. Rent can range anywhere from a couple hundred to around four hundred. The master suite is reserved only for him.

As for the condition of his home, it is everything you can imagine and more. I've been in it several times and it left a mark on my psyche.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:33
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Are we talking about bedrooms or are people just living in like the living room and the closets and stuff? How big is this trailer? How much does he pay in rent per month for it?

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:33
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How filthy is the trailer? Please describe!

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:34
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^This, be as detailed as possible please. Are we talking roaches everywhere or what? What does it smell like?

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:35
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Sil,

Oh ok. Sorry about that. It was during the libertarian national convention. His ex-wife's paramour was a libertarian delegate from WV. She began a friendship with him at the convention which continued on the internet over a period of several months before she eventually left.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:40
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There aren't people stacked up in the hallway. Each person has their own room. The trailer is dirty and dank, and smelled a bit musty. THe best way I could describe the smell is a combination of spoiled milk and sweat.

I didn't see roaches but it was dark. I did see a few cat messes, some old, some new.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:42
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So there's cat shit lying around?

How does he get food? What does he usually eat?

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:43
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Garbage everywhere?

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The Burger KingPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:45
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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As I swore that ever since Muertos post I'd tone down on VTV I even am getting to know VTV on his vbradio forum but I have to ask MackDavenport a question. Mr. MackDavenport how responsible do you think VTV is? At that would you say the guy is responsible enough to look after pets? A pet rock? His own children? Can eh pay his taxs? insurance? healthcare for his kid? Utilities? Things like that.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:48
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There was a bit of cat feces and vomit on the floor. To his credit, he was embarrassed and cleaned it up when he noticed it.

One of his tenants will make a grocery run for food. He doesn't have a car so he relies on his roommates to get food or take him to the grocery store He eats a lot of junk food even though he would deny this.

He wasn't always so large but he has always been kind of soft.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:48
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Sounds like an episode of Hoarders.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:54
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Bill,

Without the help of those around him Neil would be completely lost. I don't mean that imply that he needs to be institutionalized as mentally incompetent.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:56
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Sil,

I would be a liar if I said that Hoarders didn't enter my mind.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:57
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So he does let trash pile up?

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:57
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So how do you think such a pathetic and hilarious manchild has convinced people to let him be their leader?

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 21:59
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Snob,

Junk, wrappers, clothing. I took a peek into the kitchen but that was as far as I was brave enough to venture.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:04
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He found other people willing to buy what he is selling. A lot of the people who are attracted to movements like zeitgeist really want to make a difference and genuinely care about people and the world. What I mean to say is that it has less to do with Neil and more to do with the people attracted to that type of movement.

Neil would be more dangerous if he possessed an ounce of charisma. Neil has been rejected by every movement he has been a part of and it is only a matter of time before he alienates TZM.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:06
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What would you say to Zeitgeisters reading this thread? What advice would you give them about VTV?

Because they are.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:18
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Neil is motivated by his own desire for power and importance. Be very Leary of him. Take into consideration how many different movements he has belonged to and ask yourself; why has he alienated so many of them? Pay close attention to his behavior and how he treats other people. It won't be long til you begin to notice his dictatorial tendencies.

Personally, I like him so my criticism of him doesn't come from a place of hate or negativity.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:27
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How can you like someone like Neil? What is it about him that you like?

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:32
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I'd like to be able to answer that question in depth but to do so would reveal to much.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:34
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Fair enough. I've just never seen him exhibit any traits that I would consider desirable to be around. Maybe he's a completely different person when he isn't trying to lead the world.

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MackDavenportPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:35
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I can understand that. Neil has a lot of horrible character qualities. We have a shared history and I guess that counts for something.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:37
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What made you want to come on here and spill so much about him? I mean, what's your motivation?

You do realize he considers us a sworn enemy, right?

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 11, 2011 - 22:38
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Do you know how VTV managed to get down to Florida having no car and no money?

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