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Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 10:43

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Every time your concerns are addressed you pretend that you are satisfied with the answer. But you return later with more of the same nonsense. You really need to start using your free time to learn about skepticism and science.

Perhaps this video is a start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6-iVz1R0o

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Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 10:53

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Edit: ^there it is!

#32

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 11:18

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I understand the pattern-seeking behaviour. I told you that I don't believe the face in Alicia Keys' performance is put there on purpose...it was just sort of relevant to the CT topic.

But, really...look at Jay-z's clothing line. The symbols used are not random. He obviously has been using those symbols for a purpose. I don't know what that purpose is. I don't know if he's just playing on the fears of the CT people or something...or just likes the intrigue of pretending to be a secret society member...but those symbols are in no way random.

Can you really look at his "masters of the craft" shirt and tell me it's a coincidence?

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Sky

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 11:27

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Jay-Z is just really interested in the occult and incorporates that into his his music and image. jesus christ who cares what a bunch of brain dead celebrities believe in.

#34

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 11:34

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People see occult symbolism because they want to. Thats all. Questionmark how do you know if all the sysbol that they call Masonic are really Moasonic? Because most of the hand signs and tsymbols hat Freemasons use are for only in the Mosonic Lounges themselves. I know if I wanted to know what is Masonic symbolism I don't know maybe ask a Mason.
Edit: In other words ask a actul Mason; none of us a masons so we don't know. But keep in mind that most the CTers are also not Masons and do not know what the are talking about ether.

#35

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 11:37

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Even if Jay Z is an occultist, how the fuck is that relevant to anything? Magic is bullshit anyway.

#36

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 12:25

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Even if magic were proven to be "bullshit", as you say, that doesn't mean that there couldn't still be an occult conspiracy...people trying to push occult imagery on the masses because of their own beliefs.

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Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 12:37

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//Even if magic were proven to be "bullshit"//

No proof is required, since no proof exists to the contrary.

//people trying to push occult imagery on the masses because of their own beliefs.//

And how is that any different from Jehovah's witnesses pushing pseudo science at peoples doorsteps? Does the conspiracy to push pseudoscience worry you? I would tend to think that would be more worrisome.

Like I said before, "even if Jay Z is an occultist, how the fuck is that relevant to anything?"

#38

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 12:41

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How do you know it is occult imagery? Because some idiot on the internet tells you is. Do you have any proof that it is and no links to CT web sites do not cunt as proof. You are leting people tell you that it is occult imagery. But do they know what they are talking about; NO!

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Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 12:54

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Kepp
What I am triny to say is that the is know proof that Jay Z or any other singer is an occultist. No proof that he is using occult imagery. I know that people will point to Jay Z T-Shirts like the "Master of the Craft" and yell occult imagery. But I have to qustion is do these idiots even know what is occultic in nature and what is not. Like Viglent Citizen plays himself as this "expert" in occult imagery. But in reallity he is a idiot who make some random claims who offer no proof what so ever of his cleams; IN OTHER WORDS IT IS OCCULT IMAGERY BECUAE HE SAYS IT IS.

#40

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 13:24

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I understand your point Joe.:) I just took it one step further to illustrate how this concern with the occult is a non sequitur. Everywhere you look people are pushing their stupid beliefs, why would pushing the occult stand out as any more aberrant.

#41

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 13:31

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I get it now Kepp what you are saying. I guess it just annoying seeing people Questionmark showing so much fear believing some person from the internet just because he says it to be true. It just reminds me when I was in that boat not that long ago.

Questionmark answer these qustions:
1) Do you know what is occult imagy and what is not? If yes provide credible sources?
2) Do you know for sure that these singers are Satan Worshipers? If yes provide credible sources?
Please note that CT sites do not count as credible sources because they do not state how the come to a cuncuion or offer any support to thier cleam. They are just make baseless cleams.

#42

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 13:57

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Sorry I don't have time for a full reply to the questions right now.

But I wanted to say that it wouldn't bother me if he openly admitted to being involved or interested in the occult. But I don't like that he seems to be lying and saying he didn't put those symbols there on purpose, etc.

If he said that he was interested in those symbols or explained them, it would be different. But it just seems like he's trying to hide something...that's why it seems so worrisome.

I have to go for now, but I'll return to respond to the posts

#43

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 14:04

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"seems to be lying and saying he didn't put those symbols there on purpose"
How do you know he is lying? The only person who is cleaming that that the symbols are occultic in nature is you. Where is your proof? Idoits like Viglent Citizen and David Icke? Jay-Z is out thier for only one reason and that is to sell records and make money.

#44

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 14:15

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Whether or not Jay Z is lying is irrelevant.

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The Real Roxette

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 14:59

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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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Think about this in the simplest terms possible: tons of pop singers/rappers go out of their way to include occult/masonic symbolism into everything just to annoy and scare people like Questionmark. It obviously serves no purpose. Sure, Questionmark claims that they could be "forcing the occult onto others," but really if not a fucking soul other than Vigilant Citizen even sees it, how can they be forced to believe anything at all? By definition a secret belief system is, hurr, a secret.

You can't secretly be convinced of an entire belief system, it doesn't work that way. I realize the common view is that everyone else is just a stupid sheep, but the reality is that most people aren't utter morons who take up entire belief systems because Jay-Z pointed to his eye in a fucking music video. Grow the fuck up and stop acting so retarded, this entire thread is just fucking stupid, end of story.

#46

Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 19:57

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^ Say it sister.

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Von Kleist

Posted: Apr 18, 2011 - 06:03

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For god's sake Marshmallow, oops I mean Questionmark, if you want to find occult imagery in music there are better subjects than Lady GaGa and Jay-Z.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2011 - 09:03

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Agent Matt

Posted: Apr 19, 2011 - 09:25

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You need a therapist, bro. You're seriously paranoid, the clinical kind.

Get some professional help, or keep driving yourself nuts over retarded stuff on YouTube. It makes no real difference to me. Its your life, if you want to spend it paranoid, alienated and miserable keep doing what you're doing.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2011 - 09:34

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