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MuertosPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 01:06
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Brenton is a historical revisionist of the highest order. Whatever it is that he once liked and is retarded is of no consequence now, because, you know, he's 21 and kids his age change opinions the way most people change their socks. That means of course that anything he said in the past is null and void and the only expression of reality is what he claims to believe in the here and now, which will change dramatically within the next 24 hours.

He lives in a fantasy world where Zeitgeist is not a cult, Peter Merola and Jacque Fresco are not con artists, Lady Gaga is a respected musical artist, and rhinoplasty is a legitimate means of self-expression.

I will admit he's quite entertaining.

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BrentonPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 01:28
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Well I do agree that Zeitgeist is cult-like and that Jacque (in the least is a con-artist), I do however think Peter had legitimate concerns that he wanted to address through his movement. I think his legitimacy is evidenced by his emotional outburst at Roxanne. He at least had an emotional investment in the ZM, and his behaviour during it's current destructive stage is similar to how our politicians sometimes behave when they don't get their way (emotional/angry) so from that POV I would say that yes I do think he has some legitimacy and wasn't intentionally conning people.

Whether Gaga's respected or not is a non-issue. And on rhinoplasty, obviously it's a matter of opinion and will vary from person to person. You're talking way too prescriptively.

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BrentonPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 05:25
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I was right! I said earlier back that album 1 was about dealing with the concept of fame (which was obvious) and that album two was about expressing her nightmare world and that album three is all about her finally having confidence! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Gs6d1-Sew

correct correct correct! LOL

So yes Questionmark, she is comfortable being a part of the ilLOLminati.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 07:04
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Brenton are you drunk?

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BrentonPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 07:54
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No. I haven't been drunk for a while.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:06
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So this thread is an example of your cognitive functions while sober?

Art fags: all the same and always dumb. This thread is straight out of some hipster coffee house.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:16
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Yo Matt, I'm all for calling people out on stupid shit, but do we have to use the word "fag"? Its actually one of the few words that bothers me. I can totally get that you aren't using it as hate speech, but its hard to circumvent the connotation of a word like that with the intent.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:18
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=art%20fag

"We" don't have to use anything. If the word bothers you, regardless of knowing exactly what the context was, that's your problem. Not mine. I see no reason to alter my use of slang over your liberal guilt. The term has about as much to do with sexuality as the term Brits use for cigarettes. Suck it up.

Any other words you'd like to remove from other peoples' vocabularies? How about "fat" and/or "retarded"?

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:32
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Its rather erroneous d to assume its liberal guilt, Matt. There are wide ranging perspectives on linguistic accuracy and usage that don't pertain to some artificial sense of political morality engendered through pseudo-conscious nit-picking. I happen to find issue with the word because I am of the belief that common symbology carries with it some fairly clear messages that cannot be ignored, and the use of a term does not free its subject or object of broader implications without first doing some real development in the milieu. I can't make you stop using the word, and I asked if you would stop and you said no. So I have to be content with that even if I disagree with that on a fairly broad level.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:36
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You're entitled to your beliefs, you're not entitled to anyone agreeing with them. Especially since you knew exactly what the context was.

Stinks of political correctness to me, and I don't play that game.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:38
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That which appears to be common may really be older than the form we are accustomed to, but of course why should we know that?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:40
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You knew what the context was. You're being pedantic and PC. I don't subscribe to the notion that people should remove words from their vocabulary simply because some people either deliberately misunderstand the context (like yourself) or are too stupid to understand the context (probably Brenton).

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:48
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I don't deliberately misunderstand context at all, Matt. The context is clear, but that doesn't mean that I find the use of a word acceptable or apt. I don't subscribe to the view that context is capable of disassociating or eliminating broader lexicon issues involved. The word is, unquestionably, rooted, now in a system of intolerance. That of course doesn't make every user of the word intolerant or a homophobe, and it certainly does not immediately obscure the intended message- but it does create a diversionary tract. It bothers me because I know what that word is used to accomplish and it is nearly impossible for me to disassociate it from that context. Its not a reflection of you the user, but a reflection of me the audience. We are both entitled to be here in equal amounts, and I'll have to live with it- even if I disagree with it.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:51
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/2008-09-27_Fagbug_in_Durham.jpg/800px-2008-09-27_Fagbug_in_Durham.jpg" />

Do you take issue with this? Or is their use of "fag," despite being used in a sexual context, okay since the person driving it is gay?

If I was gay, you wouldn't have said a word about the term and we both know it. How many times has the term "art fag" been used on this forum? Once? And yet you're acting like its something you have to tolerate. Melodramatic much?

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:55
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No, I do have an issue with it and I would. Just like black people referring to each other as "nigger" is not okay in my book. Again, context doesn't mean everything because there is always more than one context at play. This is not some crusade on my part. I am irked by the word, it makes me uncomfortable, it reminds me of some of the more subtle forces at work in human social life, and its still entangled in much deeper issues.

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anticultistPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:55
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hey kaiser have you clicked Matts avatar yet ? You should

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:56
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Not going to happen bro. First lesson I learned here: never trust Matt. Ever.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:57
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KAISER I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH YOUR USE OF THE WORD NIGGER PLEASE STOP USING IT WTF

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:58
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okay.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 09:59
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ITS TOO LATE YOU ALREADY DID WTF MAN ARENT YOU AWARE OF THE HISTORICAL ROOTS WTF WTF WTF

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:00
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Etymology.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:02
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Yo Kaiser, I'm all for calling people out on stupid shit, but do we have to use the word "nigger"? Its actually one of the few words that bothers me. I can totally get that you aren't using it as hate speech, but its hard to circumvent the connotation of a word like that with the intent.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:03
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I didn't realize it bothered you so much. I was using it to prove a point, but I totally get where you are coming from. I'll refrain from using it again as much as I can.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:03
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Pussy.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:04
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cat.

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anticultistPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:06
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OK well back to Matts avatar, its just some guy showing his appreciation for the homeless...it's got some bum loving going on.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:07
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Probably better than that Duck video that went viral a couple of years back. Still not touching it (thats what she said).

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:08
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Yo Kaiser, I'm all for calling people out on stupid shit, but do we have to use the term "that's what she said"? Its actually one of the few terms that bothers me. I can totally get that you aren't using it as misogynist speech, but its hard to circumvent the connotation of a term like that with the intent.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:10
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"thats what she said" isn't a term. Its a phrase. Maybe you can explain the disgust you have with the phrase- assuming competent linguistic capabilities to properly explicate the deeper and more involved issues associated with that phrase. Did she, or did she not say it? In what context? Was the language saturated with question of power relations? Gender and sex inequality? Was the phrase born of a patriarchal dynamic of oppression and suppression?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 10:12
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I've decided that today I will be living in Kaiser Falkner World where context doesn't matter and I just get offended by stuff.

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