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MuertosPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 22:19
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I've been working on this off and on for a few days in what little snippets of time I get between all the other projects I'm working on, but events were moving so fast I had to change it frequently.

Anyway, for what it's worth. There's nothing here that's too different than a lot of talk on this forum about the schism, but here are my thoughts boiled down to the basic issues as I see them.

http://muertos.blog.com/2011/04/20/civil-war-in-utopia-my-thoughts-on-the-schism-in-the-zeitgeist-movement/</p>

Enjoy.

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Wolf BirdPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 22:45
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Great post. Top marks.

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The Burger KingPosted: Apr 20, 2011 - 23:16
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Great post! In his recent blog radio broadcast Peter said he is sticking with TZM but doing major restructuring to it. Their going to be promoting RBE still with some other bells and whistle to keep people from breaking off of the cult. I guess he can't give up the reigns just yet apparently.

I find the play by play of how TZM is a cult to be very stimulating. After talking with Falkner in IRC I am convinced that a internet cult is totally possible. As the internet makes everything easily accessible, these TZM people after being hooked in can be doing really affective brain washing on themselves at which they call deprogramming environmental conditioning out of and programming in a new value system in them.

I have been reading up on a lot of academic medical journals I have to say I wish someone would stick their head out there for studying internet cults.

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Inside JobPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 00:46
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Muertos, in future, could you please provide an audio version of blogs so that I can listen to your dreamy voice while I am working as work is the only time I have access to the interwebs?

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MuertosPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 00:59
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I suppose it's possible to do an audio version, though reading the whole thing would probably take like half an hour. I'll look into it.

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BrentonPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 03:09
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Too long, will read later. Scoffing dinner and then have soo much to do.

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The Burger KingPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 03:30
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^ Conspiracy Theorist do not read

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The Real RoxettePosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 13:25
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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It was great, I liked it a lot.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 13:45
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If you put it into a YouTube video with a Lady Gaga song Brenton might read it.

But probably not.

Also, great blog post.

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The Burger KingPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 14:08
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I reread Muertos blog it was that good. Reading his master pieces is like drinking fine wine and eating cake at the same time.

Muertos, in future, could you please provide an audio version of blogs so that I can listen to your dreamy voice while I am working as work is the only time I have access to the interwebs?

I would agree but it takes me no more than two minutes to read Muertos work in-depth since as people would say I'm a fast reader.

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oreolvrsPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 14:32
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"I suppose it's possible to do an audio version, though reading the whole thing would probably take like half an hour. I'll look into it."

Thats just the thing the longer better.After all allowing that sexy voice to go on for so long only heightens and lengthens the pleasure.Seriously listening to any audio copies would be the only time I could listen to that sexy little voice of yours n the bed at morning.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Apr 21, 2011 - 19:29
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“The people that come to mind [for leadership of the movement] are: Doug Mallette, Brandy Hume. And I do a pretty good job.”

Let's imagine PJ actually stepped down (which he will not), would any of these guys change anything?

VTV has proven to show little respect and/or tolerance for critical views, claims to be impartial on CTs and generally follows PJs philosophy, so no change here.

Brandy seems highly enthusiastic, but a bit on the dramatic side when it comes to doomsdayism. Probably not decisive enough to call CTers out on their BS, if she doesn't believe it herself.

That leaves Doug as the best choice, he admittedly doesn't seem to understand economics or why "money" isn't the same as financial capital, capitalism, debt or opportunity cost, but at least he seems to have some respect for proper management, skepticism and initiative.

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MuertosPosted: Apr 22, 2011 - 15:44
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I am working on reading this aloud into an audio file. Should be up sometime this weekend.

Don't laugh at my pronunciation of "Götterdämmerung," please.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Apr 22, 2011 - 16:49
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Try this for practice:

http://192.20.225.36/tts/speech/647d0232bd72a4d81843fc9e61f7d1c9.wav</p>

Not the best pronunciation either though. "ä" sounds like an american "a"(täp dät äss), not like "e" as in the recording.

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MuertosPosted: Apr 23, 2011 - 14:17
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By popular demand I've added an audio feature to the original blog post. It's a little less than 20 minutes in length. Click it on just beneath the picture:

http://muertos.blog.com/2011/04/20/civil-war-in-utopia-my-thoughts-on-the-schism-in-the-zeitgeist-movement/

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CyborgJesusPosted: Apr 23, 2011 - 14:23
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You should do a podcast. There, I said it.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 23, 2011 - 15:01
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Needs downloadable MP3 format so I can scrobble it.

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alexastormPosted: Apr 23, 2011 - 15:11
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You know you really do have a nice voice.

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