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JimJesusPosted: May 22, 2011 - 14:55
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OK, I can understand people building an online community, or making media and asking for donations for support. Some people find this gives them what they needs financially and ditch the 9-5 and make this full-time. It's quite common actually. However these people pump out content like crazy. Everyday there's a new blog post, podcast, video...whatever. I have no issue with this business model.

However how does VTV expect this to work for him. He does about one show a week at most (lately he's been having a lot on non TVP/TZM shows but still only a handful) He has no job, gets free babysitting for 8 hours a day M-F, and loads of free time.

My question is this, why are people voluntarily paying him for this poor service when they can reap all the same rewards by not paying?

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JimJesusPosted: May 22, 2011 - 14:56
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Hell, his last blog post is one month old today.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 14:57
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Because he whines about being broke and they feel sorry for him.

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anticultistPosted: May 22, 2011 - 14:59
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^ that

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Omni-SciencePosted: May 22, 2011 - 15:01
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Ordo Ab Chao.

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And because some of the people donating are idiots who don't see that he's a loser with a dead beat online community.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 15:41
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People donate money to Fresco and he hasn't accomplished a damn thing in like four decades. Its not about doing things, its about telling people what they want to hear.

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JimJesusPosted: May 22, 2011 - 15:46
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But Fresco does shit. He spends his days building shitty architecture and doing lecture circuits. VTV sits on his ass.

Also I don't want to hear "I'm making a movie, that's why no new content" shit because he wasn't doing much before that either.

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The Burger KingPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:06
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And because some of the people donating are idiots who don't see that he's a loser with a dead beat online community.

Not true I donated to VTV because of his kids, I pitied him, and because I've been in that situation when I was younger. From VTV's blog post he was begging and crying hardcore and I simply couldn't ignore the plea for help because that's not who I am. Am I a sucker for donating (donated for his computer as well), yes I am. I thought this would be a temporary thing until VTV could get himself back on his feet; I totally understand that but now it's become a thing he expects and will resort to being a beggar to get money he thinks he deserves from gullible good intentioned hard working people.

Now I understand when people raise money for political campaigns that's perfectly ok to ask for donation for their cause but VTV isn't in any way comparable to campaign fund raisers and in my opinion looks like a beggar bum who refuses to get a job. Campaigns don't beg for money for years, and they certainly don't beg for money to pay their own bills. The worst thing is VTV is not ashamed about this either. Stop leeching off other people so you can continue not to work.

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JimJesusPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:08
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I feel bad for his kids. I feel bad for heroin addict's kids, you don't see me passing out hits.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:13
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His kids will most likely end up as white trash just like their parents. Save your sympathy for kids born to parents that actually make an effort in life yet still fall short. VTV's kids are a lost cause.

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KeppPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:23
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Billl bought VTV's shield and elf ears!

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anticultistPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:32
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Bill paid for VTV's addiction and monthly MMORPG bill to City of Heros/City of Villains

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 16:32
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^lol

Damnit, anticultist ruined my ^lol, but I guess its still pretty appropriate.

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The Burger KingPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:22
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I think the best way to help VTV is to not donate to him. It will force him to get a job that way and stop him from being a beggar and mooching off others who work hard for their money at a job.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:27
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He gets government dole, he will most likely never have to work.

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The Burger KingPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:31
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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^ I'd like to think I wasn't bamboozled out of my money by donating to VTV but I realize I'm living in a fantasy world where I think people will do the right thing and get a job to support their family. It seems VTV doesn't even attempt to find a job and at that has made me reluctant to donate to other people/causes which may actually be legitimate.

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KeppPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:36
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Bill your donation was vital in repelling countless orc invasions.

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JimJesusPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:39
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That's why he said on one of his shows if he doesn't get donations he'll be forced to recycle cans? Goddamn that's so trailer trash.

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anticultistPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:39
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And to think VTV hates Bills guts as well even though Bill funded his lifestyle.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:42
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Bill you were bamboozled. Sorry.

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The Burger KingPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:45
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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^ That's another thing VTV continues to call me a troll but how many trolls actually donate money so he can continue to do nothing. He is a very ungrateful person. When I was on VTV's forum I pointed out the fact I donated to him and he didn't even thank me one time at all. Not once...

I try to help VTV and he comes back and spits in my face multiple times.

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KeppPosted: May 22, 2011 - 17:47
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People who are used to getting shit for free are unable to experience appreciation.

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Agent MattPosted: May 22, 2011 - 20:27
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Bill, he thinks he's entitled to shit. Why would he thank you? As far as he's concerned, you were just giving him what he already deserved.

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alexastormPosted: May 23, 2011 - 00:12
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"Not true I donated to VTV because of his kids, I pitied him, and because I've been in that situation when I was younger. From VTV's blog post he was begging and crying hardcore and I simply couldn't ignore the plea for help because that's not who I am."

Do you really believe that he used your money to better the lives of his children? I doubt very much that he did. You've been there, I've been there, a hell of a lot of people have been there. Most of us just find a way to fight our way through without publicly pissing and moaning and begging for money from strangers. I feel sorry for those kids, I don't believe that they're a lost cause just because they're being raised by trash. But sending money to VTV benefits VTV not his kids. You want to help someone? That's great. And sometimes you can find someone very close to home that really needs it and will appreciate it. Around here we have a few small groups that can point you to a family in need. Sometimes it isn't even a family or about money. There's a few people in the local nursing home here that have no one visit them. Give your sympathy to someone that deserves it.
And he claims that he'll be forced to recycle cans? I say: recycle away; at least he would be doing something. I said it last week, VTV is part of the entitlement mindset. People that want everything handed to them as if the world somehow owes them something. You sound like a nice guy Bill, you tried to do a good thing and got taken. That's on VTV, not you.

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