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GeoPosted: May 15, 2010 - 13:15
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What do you guys make of this article:

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html</p>

How to respond?

(This post belongs in the CT forum, but I'm not sure how to delete or move).

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MuertosPosted: May 15, 2010 - 14:26
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100% bullshit.

This publication, The Barnes Review, is a zine run by Willis Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby and a notorious Holocaust denier and anti-Semite. He's very chummy with David Duke. ADL's got a page on him but it's down at the moment.

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GeoPosted: May 15, 2010 - 15:19
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Thanks, I really rather not believe this, but must do my research.

I tried to verify this statement:

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In a similar vein, the Jewish newspaper Natscha Retsch wrote:

The war against Germany will be waged by all Jewish communities, conferences, congresses... by every individual Jew. Thereby the war against Germany will ideologically enliven and promote our interests, which require that Germany be wholly destroyed.
The danger for us Jews lies in the whole German people, in Germany as a whole as well as individually. It must be rendered harmless for all time.... In this war we Jews have to participate, and this with all the strength and might we have at our disposal.
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Did not find anything about this paper: "Natscha Retsch", but did not look much. I wonder if there should be microfilm of it in the university libraries, etc. Would there be?

Did you try to verify the other claims made there?

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MuertosPosted: May 15, 2010 - 15:32
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Did you try to verify the other claims made there?

Why should I? They're obviously bullshit, and here's how you can tell.

Even if it's true that a newspaper "declared war on Germany" in 1933--which I seriously doubt because it plays too directly into the ideology of Holocaust deniers to be credible--obviously nothing came of it.

Like most anti-Semitic propaganda, this scenario assumes that "the Joooooooooos" are/were a monolithic force under central control. That's totally false. In the 1930s Jewish communities were scattered throughout the world and most of them were assimilated to one degree or another into the countries where they lived. I have studied European history extensively and I can say that there is certainly no evidence whatsoever of any widespread acts (or even isolated acts) of "war" by Jews against Germans anywhere--which means that even if this "Natscha Retsch" paper actually published this article in 1933, nothing happened as a result of it. Certainly there was no "war" against Germany, at least not until September 3, 1939 when Great Britain was the first power to declare war on Germany after the invasion of Poland.

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GeoPosted: May 15, 2010 - 16:40
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The term "war" is used in the article to refer to an economic boycott to cripple the Nazi regime. I agree that the language can be misleading.

But beyond that, the article discusses boycott and demonstrations by Jews in mostly in the US, by specific groups:

"On March 12, 1933 the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Gardens for March 27."

Apparently, these protests were covered in the Daily News paper, picture shown.

Anyhow, this doesn't say that this all was a Zionist plot, but just Jewish reaction to Hitler, yet.

The article goes on to describe how the boycott and the ensuing hardship on Jews in Germany created a situation where the Jews would want to leave Germany, and through a Zionist economic agreement with the Nazi, Zionists secured Jewish passage to out of Germany and into Palestine. Unfortunately the English was charging 1,000 Sterling Pounds per immigrant into their colony.

(This is decribed in books by Walter Laqueur and Edwin Black, both of Jewish decent. Laqueur has written a book about anti-semitism. So it doesn't seem they are anti-semites.)

On a corroborating point, the mainstream-view documentary on Eichmann explains and shows how Eichmann was sent to Palestine to see if the Jews can be deported to there, if I recall correctly, but was found and sent back by the British.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: May 15, 2010 - 17:29
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This exact topic has been talked about before:

http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/judea-declares-war-on-germany</p>

Thread closed, repost there.

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