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| Geo | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 15:16 |
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 Level: 1 CS Original | Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) - who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry - recently said "At some level of the government, at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened". He also said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true." Supposedly he says much of this in his book, "The Ground Truth". I haven't read it. Responses? | |||||
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| Muertos | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 15:46 |
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 Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | Quote taken out of context by conspiracy theorists. Here's a transcription of an interview given by John Farmer regarding the 9/11 commission that discusses his views on what was right and what was wrong with it. As with every other criticism by somebody associated with the 9/11 Commmission of the final report, he's not talking about the central issues of the investigation, but peripheral matters. Here's what Farmer has to say about the 9/11 Commission Report in general: "Well, let me just say that I think the report is, uh, extremely accurate, and- and sets forth the facts of 9/11. And we actually did point out in the report the discrepancies between the accounts that were given and what we actually found. But what's different is, you know, in this account is, I think, by telling it structurally differently- in other words, in the Commission Report we told it flight by flight, as much for the sake of clarity as anything else, so you could understand with each flight what happened. That's not the way it was lived, though, by the people who had to respond, and that's what this book does- it tells the story, uh, almost from their perspective- when everything's flying at them at once. And I think the value of that is that you can see that, uh, taken as a whole, you can see that the real enemy of preparedness is bureaucracy, and that's tough nut to crack but I think it's the one we have to, if we're gonna be better in the future." Read the transcript here: http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=7416 Other quote-mines of comments about the 9/11 Commissioners have already been debunked on this site: | |||||
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| Ed | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 15:53 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Geo, you said that Commissioners say the investigation was a sham but I don't see Farmer saying that in that quote anyway. Do you actually have a quote saying that, or is this rather colourful truther interpretation? | |||||
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| Geo | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 16:44 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | @Muertos: Thanks! @Ed: It was a colorful truther interpretation by a Facebook 'friend' and I posted it here to get a learned response. | |||||
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| Muertos | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 17:07 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | No problem. It's interesting you mentioned this, several of us were just this week working on some 9/11 Commission quotes and this particular one was one of the ones we hadn't gotten to yet. So your message was timely. | |||||
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| sorry | Posted: May 15, 2010 - 18:06 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | It's strange that quotes would have to be tweaked in order to get the point across. | |||||
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| Dr_Benedict_Zaroff | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 06:46 |
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 Level: 1 CS Original | @ aaronhatch You have noooooo idea just how much fun you can have with tweaking quotes. Let's begin with some fairly simple tweaks of Ed's analysis of Zeitgeist, part 3 at http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-three/ : The Federal Reserve does ... increasingly create debt. -- Here I used an ellipsis to get rid of that pesky "not" It was "bankers, not lawmakers", when the first two, or at least the first, would be considered as such. It makes perfect sense. -- snipped "The film claims" at the beginning and all that boring verbiage after "perfect sense." But you can have much more fun by using ellipses to skip entire sentences, like so: I could replace ... bankers and Fed with "Jews" ... to derail ... the US economy. Or: I ... believe ... reality is ... evil. | |||||
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| Ed | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 08:32 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Aaron, misquoting is a long tradition by promoters of idiocy. | |||||
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