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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 11:30

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Mario grabbed a screenshot where they're talking about it:

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VTV says he's going to include in the documentary clips from the movie "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" where the dopey duo are flying around the country beating up people who talked crap about them on the Internet.

If I'm not mistaken that movie is owned by Dimension Films and distributed, at least on home video, by Buena Vista Entertainment, a division of Disney.

If VTV is begging for donations from his internet followers, I wonder how he has the money to pay Dimension Films and Disney to license clips of that movie for his "Troll" documentary.

Could he (GASP) be planning to use them UNLICENSED??!?!?!? No, not that!

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 11:33

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I've never seen the movie ""Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back". Is this any good?

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 11:44

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I hope he hosts it on YouTube so I can flag it for copyright infringement.

About time he got a taste of his own medicine.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 12:31

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My housemate is a Hollywooder, I should ask what he thinks of this.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 12:33

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The king of false DMCA complaints steals copyrighted footage for his movie. I just can't wrap my mind around how intellectually dishonest and ethically bankrupt that man-child is.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 12:58

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It sucks, it's the worst of Kevin Smith's manbaby movies.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 13:11

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What matt said +1000.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 13:32

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Somebody should contact Buena Vista Entertainment; get VTV cought for copy right infrengment.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 13:32

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@CarmelColor I'm not sure you thought this through all the way

Clerks 2 > Dogma > Clerks > Chasing Amy > Zack and Miri Make a porno > J&SB Strike back > Mallrats > Jersy Girl > Cop Out

@Everyone else

Now this is what I was told. If you are going to be producing a movie where you receive money for you must comply with some rules. News/TV clips must be purchased from the station or the archives. Any other footage must have a written OK from the owners. They can run thousands of dollars for even a small 1 minute clip. Anyone recorded must sign wavers. Any visible logos are to be excluded (like blurring or 'wrappng' soda cans.) Movie studios hire lawyers to pick though every minute of a film looking for things they could be sued for.

The Zeitgiest movies were an exception as originally they were just internet videos. He can get away with selling a DVD for 5 bucks if he's selling you a DVD and not a movie. However he took up begging for cash too, so I think there could be a case here if a party decides to sue for whatever reason.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 14:05

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Kevin Smith movies fuckin' suck.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 15:15

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nope, sorry Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is the worst, Dogma sucks (what if god were a woman, think about it, maaaaaaan), Mallrats sucks, Chasing Amy sucks and the rest are completely forgettable. Clerks is the only acceptable one but that gets less true the older I get. The problem is Kevin Smith isn't growing up. He's like if you let an "intellectual" 16 year old make a movie.

STAR WARS REFERENCE

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 15:40

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I thought Clerks 2 was pretty good.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 15:45

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Looks like VTV is gonna have to rethink his plans to include copyrighted footage now, or else it looks like he is in for a world of financial troubles he has never witnessed.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 16:25

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If this thing is ever released I will make it a personal mission to alert everyone he stole intellectual property from to make it.

VTV wants trolling? I'll give him some trolling.

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The Burger King

Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 20:37

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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VTV is disabled I pity the guy...

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Posted: Jun 16, 2011 - 23:40

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Guy whining about people getting picked on gets sued by the man, now that's my kind of humor.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 00:48

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I really wouldn't feel bad if he got sued. He knowingly abused copyright law for his own gain and he'll have to learn the hard way.

Notice how he only DMCAs people he knows won't cough up their identity, my videos about him are alive and well.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 08:43

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"I hope he hosts it on YouTube so I can flag it for copyright infringement."
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I'm sure you know this but you can only flag for copyright if you own the copyright, but.. I guess that's your point :)

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:03

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Parts 4 and 5 of a DMCA legal form state the following:

4. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials as described above is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

5. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

This is the problem of committing the illegal action VTV does, committing a perjury yourself to prove a point is no good. I believe Joe has the right idea by letting the actual copyright holders know of the copyright theft.

To do this it is simply a matter of emailing or contacting the following bodies:

Sony Headquarters Address & Phone Number
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232
United States
Phone: 310-244-4000
Fax: 310-244-2626

Time Warner Inc.
One Time Warner Center
New York, NY 10019-8016
212.484.8000

With Disney there are three ways to contact them, in order of preference:

By E-mail
BVHE Consumer Relations (non-Disney titles): bvheinfo@bvhehelp.com
Disney Consumer Relations: disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com
By Telephone
BVHE Consumer Relations (non-Disney titles): (800) 477-2811 (USA and Canada only)
Disney Consumer Relations: (800) 723-4763 (USA and Canada only)
By Letter
BVHE Consumer Relations
800 Winneconne Avenue
Neenah, WI 54956

Then let them do the legal business.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:38

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I'm sure you know this but you can only flag for copyright if you own the copyright, but.. I guess that's your point :)

Actually no, I did not know that. I've never filed a DMCA complaint before because that's not how I roll. The only reason I even want to do it to VTV is because he's filed endless false DMCA complaints against others, so getting him busted for actually violating copyright law is poetic justice.

I thought maybe there was just a flag button you could hit that causes it to come under review. If that's not the case I'll just send links to the copyright holders and let them do it.

So for the record, no, I was not suggesting committing perjury to prove a point. I was simply ignorant about the process to have something flagged.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:44

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Yes, it's my understanding that DCMA complaints should be filed by the owner of the material.

A Disney subsidiary, though, would definitely take this seriously if we bring it to their attention. (I'm just assuming the film is somehow staked with Disney, my video copy--yes, I own it on DVD--says it's distributed by Buena Vista Entertainment).

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:49

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I file DMCA's on a regular basis [not only with youtube but with companies and websites], you need to do them properly in most situations, and need to prove you are the copyright holder and fill in all your personal details.But with Youtube their DMCA filing process is totally fucked and doesnt operate in the correct manner, in other words Youtubes DMCA policy is simply anyone can fill in the form and the background checks and verification process done by Youtube is actually very poor. This is why people abuse the DMCA policy on youtube all day everyday.

If the system of youtube DMCA policy was in line with most serious legal contacts for piracy and copyright abuse people like VTV, Daryll Thomas etc... would not be able to do what they do and would be caught for their illegal activities.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:51

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How naive of me to think that YouTube actually pays people to review claims of copyright infringement. After a little reading, it appears its nothing more than an automated process. No, I am not willing to submit my personal information and commit perjury just to get e-revenge. But I am willing to forward the information to the appropriate copyright holders.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:54

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Precisely Matt, for me I would rather not abuse the system like VTV and the other fucktards that do it, because I would rather see them get onto the radar of the actual copyright holders, those being multi national power house companies who wouldnt think twice on sueing them.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 09:58

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I guess when you have nothing to lose, committing perjury like VTV does is no big thing. But unlike him, I have a lot more to lose than a spot in a trailer park.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 10:03

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In fact with the right evidence at hand, which James Kush has provided, one could even pre warn the companies of the intent and pre meditated plans of VTV to commit copyright abuse.

While this is not an offence to state you will do it, it would mean that Buena Vista were aware and held evidence of premeditated copyright theft, and could prove VTV knew about DMCA legalities. Not only his blatant disregard for the perjury offence when it comes to him being in videos, but was willing to break copyright law irrespective of this knowledge to make his own videos, without following the legal process of obtaining the approval of the copyright holders and paying them if they required.

Or one could keep it all saved to present to the company to show VTV's flagrant behaviour afterwards.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 10:11

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Well the thing is, I don't think VTV will be doing any of the video creation himself. On his stupid Facebook profile for it, that Aaron Moritz guy is listed as the producer. I don't think VTV has any video editing skills, but I know Aaron Moritz does.

VTV won't mind throwing Aaron under the bus if any legal drama comes his way. Aaron Moritz is a Canadian if memory serves. I don't know if that would make things more difficult for copyright holders to pursue legal action against him.

I'm not sure its even accurate to call it VTV's movie. Most likely he's just forwarding Aaron a bunch of YouTube clips and news articles to steal content from and Aaron will be the one actually making the movie.

I don't really feel one way or the other about Aaron Moritz, so I'm not sure its really worth the trouble to alert any copyright holders.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 10:15

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No the legal copyrights are enforcable worldwide, there are only a few countries where copyright is blurred, Canada is not one of them.

But VTV can not escape it that easily, because who evers name is attached to the video, which his already is is responsible for it. Plus he has already proven that he is part of the decision making process of what the video contains and when and where its going to be included. He is what would be called the manager, producer, director and is therefore above Aaron, so is more responsible.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 10:18

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If it was just VTV involved in it alone, I'd be more excited about getting the movie involved in legal trouble. But I don't care one way or the other about Aaron Moritz, so I'm not sure I'd feel okay with getting him in trouble just to spite VTV.

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Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 10:20

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Look Matt, VTV relies on loopholes like that, best thing to do in this scenario is to contact Aaron and inform him of the illegal process of the movie and tell him your intent. If he refuses to follow the legal route and ignores your warning then he deserves all he gets and is as bad as VTV.

Bottom line VTV is completely responsible for his actions and knows full well what he is doing, and is therefore completely responsible if he does carry it out.

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