Skeptic Project

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 11:41

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Genuine American Monster

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http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=6&id=352626&Itemid=100114&lang=en#352626

I have no love for TZM, but I'll give credit where credit is due and the posters in this thread so far deserve some. But I find myself wondering how long this thread will remain on topic before its invaded by resident cranks like basic1.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 11:46

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I shoot you dead.

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Forget the cranks infesting the thread, I wonder how long before the thread is locked or deleted.

Kaiser Falkner

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 12:11

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HAIL HYDRA

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This is totally unexpected, this thread is the most sane one youve ever posted here. Lets see how long before it gets derailed.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 13:04

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Genuine American Monster

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"Quoting a conspiracy theory blog article out of context which takes another article out of context? Yeah, that is not a credible source. Sources like that + inflamatory remarks = complete loss of credibility and inflamitory labeling of theorists as nut jobs and the like. Smart people would learn from that. Theorists tend not to. "

So far the thread seems to be fairly rational and someone even suggested debunking part 2 of Z1 themselves. Will Merola stand for this? Will the resident cranks?

We shall see.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 13:06

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I shoot you dead.

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I have my doubts this will go on for long, especially if they want to specifically debunk part 2 of Z1. I don't think Merola or other cranks will take this. I still expect to see the thread locked/deleted at some point, and involved users potentially banned.

CyborgJesus

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 15:06

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And once they've cleared the movement from all CTs they'll be as rational and productive as most communist movements are. Oh wait...

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 15:32

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Genuine American Monster

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"Cathalyst & AdrienD:

You two have a high propensity to harp on this non-issue. This Site, even in Misc, is about TZM and what comprises an RBE.

If either of you actually care about TZM then you would have figured out a long time ago that the stigma associated with 9/11 pervades via those who are too mentally deficient to address the true intents of the Movement, so they work to draw attention to surrounding rhetoric which is explicitly irrelevant yet provocative, in their effort to debase/attack TZM.

For new people to the forum, this issue tolerated as a learning curve given some find their way here through Zeitgeist: The Movie, which long predated TZM and has no baring to our mission.

However, anyone who has been here as while, as you have, should know better.

This thread is being locked as it is a distraction and simply generates more confusion to those who need clarity about what TZM actually represents.
Please go the countless other forum on the web for this issue. "

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=231&id=352626&Itemid=100114&lang=en#352691

Didn't last long, thread has been locked. What a shame. The leadership is absolutely unwilling to let go of conspiracy theories.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 15:40

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I shoot you dead.

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I knew it wouldn't last long.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 15:45

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Genuine American Monster

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The resident crank basic1 weighed in:

"I don't see what business any of this (flawed & fallacy-riddled brainwashing manipulative propaganda - I might add) has for being on this forum. What exactly does it have to do with an RBE?"

Which is ironic, considering this post is followed by the following signature:

"I endorse Zeitgeist (The Movie) Part II: All the World's a Stage."

So I think its pretty obvious that talk un-related to an RBE is just fine, as long as it follows the pro-conspiracy line.

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 15:49

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I shoot you dead.

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THE resident crank? I think TZM has more than one resident crank.

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Kaiser Falkner

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 16:50

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HAIL HYDRA

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They'll let a thread that talks about violence against innocent people go on and get upset when its actually deleted, but this the admins shut down without batting an eye.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 16:56

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Genuine American Monster

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Conspiracies are such an integral part of the ideology I don't think its possible to divorce themselves from it. Belief in RBE requires one to believe that there are enough resources available for everyone if only the Illuminati/New World Order/Banksters/Governments/etc would allow it to be that way.

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Kepp

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 17:07

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They really don't see themselves as CT'ers.

I was listening to On Point with Tom Ashbrook this morning and they did an episode on 911 conspiracy theorists. One of the callers starts of with "I'm not a conspiracy theorist but" and he was a typical 911 truther.

EDIT: Was a good episode so ill link it.
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2011/08/25/conspiracy-theories-and-the-sept-11-terrorist-attacks

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Kaiser Falkner

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 - 18:29

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HAIL HYDRA

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For new people to the forum, this issue tolerated as a learning curve given some find their way here through Zeitgeist: The Movie, which long predated TZM and has no baring [sic] to our mission.

I also ignored this, but it bears pointing out. The administrator is actually coming right out and noting that people are brought to the movement because of the first film, which inherently implies that people believe the movie and go to the movement as a way to alleviate their fears. At best this is them acknowledging that the first movie is a lie they trick people to join the movement with, at worst its admission that they cannot and will not abandon their deceitful past.

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