Skeptic Project

i said no effort was needed once enough people were aware of the ideas. please go back and read.

so let me get this straight three
you dont go to their forums, but you can organise him to get back on by going to teamspeak and mediating ?

Were you just playing with words by saying you didnt go to the forum or just lieing ?

nah, check me on the forums, my name is three. i have like 20 posts. i communicate with most members via facebook and mailing lists.

also, 3 of my best friends and my girlfriend are huge ZM supporters, and have never logged on to the forums once. ever.

can you assume if you lifted a ban on child slaves, all of a sudden everyone would go get child slaves..... c mon.

Yes, but what I want is to enslave young children because I might enjoy it. Let's take this off of me actually. There people who are actual pedophiles. Are you suggesting that they like it due to problems attaining resources or monetary issues? What if they just like it for the fun of it?

I'm not saying laws are good. I support anarchism, and thus I do not support laws.

My point is that most members of The Venus Project have not taken into account the possibility of deviant behavior. You assume that there is some "correct" set of behaviors that will take place when resources are plentiful.

Again, what about people who like to play with and own children? What about somebody who gets it into their heads that black people are evil because he has schizophrenia and hears black people mocking him in his head?

What do you do with these people? Do you say that they are "wrong"?

Right now, I'm analyzing the issue of deviant behavior in a lawless RBE.

What if a pedophile said that he just loves children? If nobody criticized a pedophile, would they feel shame?

then harming them would not be loving.

and if he didnt harm them, he wouldnt be a pedophile.

"created in an open, loving, society."

Sounds like the perfect breeding ground for pedophilia actually...

But really, you believe that all problems (financial, social, mental) will be solved if the monetary system was done away with?

The reason I'm doing this, three, is because the movement is making a giant assumption about human behavior. What happens if they are wrong?

More importantly, how can you prove that all deviant behavior would go away?

Training an animal to do "almost everything" is not everything. I can not train a dog to have sex with a cat, for example. Certain things are ingrained.

no, the monetary system is really a symptom of a competitive, scarce society. and so is pedophilia.

It seems like the only way to prove an RBE would dissolve deviant behavior would be to start a small city, have some children, and raise them in the environment to see how they react.

>> no but ive never seen anyone house train one so i cant be certain.

Just because you can train something doesn't mean that it has no instincts or aspects of its personality that are bad. There are dogs that are trained the still do unpredictable things from time to time.

Humans are worse because we are aware of being trained and our place in the world. There are sociopaths. If someone reads about how things "used to be" in the world of TVP, and begins to understand that they can get gratification from pushing someone around, what's to stop them? Simply saying "it won't happen" isn't an answer to the question at all, it just avoids it completely.

and yes, starting with a small city and growing is part of the plan for a RBE... as such with the scientific method... hypothesize, test, analyze, repeat.