Skeptic Project

@nanos - that is a good plan re: web development company, and i plan on doing that next spring, i like said in this thread. I will be off the grid in north cali, developing websites.

@matt because acting like we dont live in a monetary system is suicide.

We cannot yet declare resources as common heritage.

> if they didnt spend all their money on videos and models they
> could of paid for a solar grid decades ago

Maybe, but as they don't like to talk about money in detail, its hard to tell. (Roxanne did say they was quoted $30k to have built a solar grid.)

But considering TZM members wasted $1 to $2 million just going to meetings in the last few years, $30k is perfectly affordable right now to raise.

> If Jacque cares about sustainability where is his living as
> an example ?

I imagine he is doing the best he can.

But, if he lets us help him, he can do far better I reckon.

> resources will be abundant once we declare them all common heritage

Some resources maybe, but not all..

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/3135</p>

> to say that just because Jacques lives in a pseudo-sustainable
> home means he doesnt care about sustainability is foolish.

Somewhat agreed.

But it doesn't look great not to do it.

On the plus side, didn't they build their own home, thats a plus point right there!

yup Euripide Sneed lays that claim of Matts out right here:

http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/tvp-ex-1970-1980s-member-speaks/</p>

And I have more email encounters discussing other things with him in my email inbox

"Fresco sounds like a damn good capitalist. He has everyone fooled into thinking he isn't one."

CONSPIRACY THEORY!

I thought you had to go to work, three?

im at work.

lol matt is a Zeitgeist movement CT!

I think if we need 5 billion dollars, and everyone gave $1,000 to start the first city, we would need 5,000,000... which could be possible. I think.

> with cash Fresco conned out of well intentioned suckers.

Perhaps, again its hard to tell as they don't like to talk about these things!

Listening to someone talk about their experience, it sounds more like misunderstandings than connings, well, mostly..

It has some uncomfortable aspects about it, which sound almost reasonable, yet, not quite perfect.

But then, we are all human, and things are not always perfect.

Personally, if Fresco said he had conned people, said he was sorry, and would do something about it now, thats all that would matter to me.

Its the not talking about it and trying to hide it that I really don't like.

Just be honest, admit any mistakes, or if you don't think they was mistakes, so say, air that laundry and we can think more of you for it, we can try and learn from the situation so we don't repeat it. (Hard to learn when the details are hidden..)

> I think if we need 5 billion dollars, and everyone gave $1,000 to start the first
> city, we would need 5,000,000... which could be possible. I think.

Generally agreed.

My solution is more to help people earn that $1k, even go as far as to help them earn double that! (Then tax them 50%!)

That way, its a win win for everyone..

I hope you don't get banned on TZM for talking so sensibily :-)

Did I say I was a doctor or are you just reading what you want to in order to maintain the narrative?

oh so wait, you went to school for mental health, but dont practice it? so much for academia.

dont LPC's have patients?

LOL clients. ok sorry. I will correct my statement.

i hope you dont just diagnose all your clients (or anyone else you offer mental help to) with retardation....

This thread will go down as an internet worst.