Skeptic Project

three, what is it that you want to discuss?

i honestly DO NOT know enough about 9/11 to debate what happened that day.

And now we're back to the same thing I asked you before the last time you said that.

We do have enough information and we do know that 911 truth claims are always 100% wrong back to front.

Of course now we know you're a Pentagon no planer and also believe things like no planes were scrambled and that Cheney was in charge of NORAD. If we were to talk even more you'd surely bring up lots of other nonsense.

You claim you looked at both sides, that is not true. If you had you would first of all not posted that fake video, apparently you aren't even very knowledgeable in what other truthers believe.

And its relevant since you asked what the promotion of pseudoscience is in the Movement.

Well Ed... im on an anti-conspiracy site. obviously you know the other side of the story. Someone asked why I thought it might be an inside job.

I asked you that.

I asked you because if you say you don't know if it was an inside job then some truther arguments must be persuasive to you. I wanted to know what those arguments are. I had no idea you would be a "I believe bad obviously faked videos" kind of truther.

Anyone who claims they have "researched both sides" cannot rationally come to the conclusion that a conspiracy in 9/11 is even possible, much less that it happened.

Three, you're a Truther. Just admit it. The "I'm agnostic" fig leaf doesn't fit. No one but conspiracy theorists ever claim to be "agnostic" about 9/11, or JFK, or the moon landing, or any of the other conspiracy theories that most Zeitgeisters generally seem to believe in.

The fact that you come to us specifically to defend a movement that has as one of its major unacknowledged objectives the promotion of conspiracy theories and conspiracy ideology is itself strong evidence that you are a Truther, to say nothing of the confirmation you've offered in your replies here.

Dear Three,

You want to get the scoop on CIA black torture sites? You want to want to get the scoop on what really goes on in Gitmo? You want to know the real situation in the Middle East? You want to know the inner workings of the US government? You want to hear all the information that none of the cable network angertainment pundits will tell you?

Turn on PBS.

It really is that simple.

prove us wrong

Thanks Matt. I do, and I really enjoy PBS - especially the NOVA series.

The thing is, I think there is more underlying issues of poverty in our world that have to deal with how money is created (because povert = no money).

Those are important concerns.

Unfortunately Merola nor anyone involved in the Zeitgeist Movement will do anything about it.

Doctors Without Borders do things. The Zeitgeist Movement makes forum posts about why donating to Haitian relief efforts are bad.

But Ed, again... i never claimed the video to the the TRUTH. it was an example!

An example of how uncritical you are and how much you really looked into something you claimed to have done "a ton of research" on.

Aside from that... what was it an example of?

Why do you want to talk about the Venus Project?

Speaking only for myself, I do not care about the Venus Project. It's bullshit and will never work, but that really doesn't concern me. What does concern me is that the Zeitgeist Movement is a conspiracy movement that seeks to promote conspiracy theories and conspiracy ideology, which is exactly what you're doing here.

Let's not talk about the Venus Project. I don't care about the models Jacque Fresco makes in his garage. Ooh, they're pretty. OK. I care about stopping the Zeitgeist Movement and Peter Merola from spreading conspiracy theories. That's what I care about.

Let's talk about that. What are you, Three, doing to stop your movement from spreading conspiracy theories?

im talking about VP and TZM because this thread its called "Article: The Zeitgeist Movement"

Yes, and it is also more than buying Blavatsky and Acharya S books off of Amazon too.

Also, Merola is no Bill Gates. He isn't even a Marshall Applewhite.

I think there are a lot of people in TZM that don't realize eating food requires money, because it just magically appears in their parents' refrigerators.

Matt, my full time job is using skills that i was 100% self taught. I went to school for a business degree and i program websites. self-education can be very powerful.

Matt.... ad hominem and based off a small sample set, if any at all.