Skeptic Project

Second blog in a week, but I really liked the review of the movie they did over at Transition Culture, a green-oriented UK blog. Considering I did a post on JREF's review, I thought this one warranted one too.

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/another-bad-review-of-thrive-hits-the-nail-on-the-head/

Enjoy.

Anyone check out the comment section. This guy says Foster was heavily influenced by Arthur Young. Any proof of this? If this is true Arthur Young sounds like a Jacque Fresco version of TVP/TZM. Anybody have any information on Arthur Young from the sound of it seems Foster has been following this individual for a long time.

Someone on your blog has made a 50 page debunking in .pdf format of thrive i find very interesting as I read through it.

http://www.praxispeace.org/pdf/DL_020612.pdf

It is not someone on my blog who created it, but rather, a progressive think tank run by Georgia Kelly, who wrote the negative review of Thrive that appeared on Huffington Post and ruffled Gamble's feathers.

I read the article and was actually disappointed. It's very little debunking on Thrive itself and is instead a political manifesto excorciating the philosophy of libertarianism in general. I don't like libertarianism myself, but, aside from identifying the political agenda of Thrive (which anyone with two brain cells can plainly see for themselves anyway), I don't think it adds a whole lot. It doesn't, for instance, go point-by-point through the film or even really address the conspiracy aspects. It's just a long howl against objectivism, Ayn Rand, Ron Paul and Foster Gamble the Secret Libertarian.

New post! Also one of general utility for CTs, not just Thrive. False flag attacks, debunked!

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/false-flag-attacks-debunked/

The main emphasis is on the Gulf of Tonkin, with a lesser emphasis on 9/11, but Gleiwitz radio station incident (1939) and Operation Northwoods are also mentioned. I'm sick and tired of conspiracy nutters claiming Gulf of Tonkin was a "false flag," so I decided to set the record straight, historically speaking.

I would wager money that I'll be called a "paid disinformation agent" at least three times in response to that specific article.

New blog! Who is David Icke, and what is he doing in Thrive?

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/who-is-david-icke/

This one was actually pretty interesting to research. Icke is really, really nuts, but his bizarre theories tap into a lot of history and culture.

hey where can i watch this?been looking around want to see the part with those that are sane and credible eg amy goodman and vivindia shiva

New blog, and a very important one. Allegations have come to light that Adam Trombly, one of the persons interviewed in Thrive, may not have actually invented the machine that the movie claims is his, and that the machine doesn't really do in real life what the movie claims it does.

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/exclusive-allegations-about-adam-trombly-present-potential-credibility-crisis-for-thrive/

I've never done more research for one specific blog post. This could be a serious issue for the Thrive people, and it's been simmering for a long time, but has not gone public until now.

Quote from Muertos

New blog! Now you can vote on whether I'm a paid disinformation agent or not!

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/poll-is-the-creator-of-this-blog-a-paid-disinformation-agent/

Here's your chance, Zeitgeisters, Desteni bots and Thrivers! Of course, the IPs of all "yes" votes will be collected and carefully analyzed...

Have you dealt with Kony 2012 members yet?

Quote from Muertos

New blog! Now you can vote on whether I'm a paid disinformation agent or not!

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/poll-is-the-creator-of-this-blog-a-paid-disinformation-agent/

Here's your chance, Zeitgeisters, Desteni bots and Thrivers! Of course, the IPs of all "yes" votes will be collected and carefully analyzed...

Option 3 made my day.

"I'm too paranoid to answer, for fear that my IP will be recorded and I'll be sent to a FEMA camp."

New blog! At long last, the "Follow the Money" section with all the movie's false blathering about fractional reserve banking, debt slavery etc. is debunked.

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/follow-the-money-debunked/

SlayerX3 wrote this article and my hats off to him. I also understand that he used a lot of sources that were also cited in SP's original debunking of Zeitgeist. So you see, a good debunking never fades away!

New blog! Foster Gamble responds, predictably by doubling down on the tinfoil hat speak, and thus makes clear that his movie and his "solutions" are only for CT'ers. I have a few remarks at the end, but honestly I think this is the end of any dialogue between me and Mr. Gamble.

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/foster-gamble-responds-thrive-and-its-solutions-are-evidently-only-for-conspiracy-theorists/

The dude has to be in his fifties, he is one of those new agey defensive martial arts pricks. i have a met a few of them in my time and most of them are trying to avoid confrontation and argument because they are just weak and scared. Which explains his paranoia about the rest of the world.

New blog, and an important one.

"Thrive" as a religious text: the emerging religion of conspirituality.
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/thrive-as-holy-scripture-the-emerging-religion-of-conspirituality/

This article ties together a lot of what I've been saying about the conspiracy underground for the past few months, as well as many things we have observed here regarding Zeitgeist (which gets a number of mentions in the article).

Enjoy.

Honestly, I don't like the term "conspirituality." I think it's gimmicky and won't stick. The important concept is that academics are viewing the recent trends of conspiracy theorist dynamics in terms of comparative religion. I caution you, and everyone, that the article I highlight here is NOT the final word on these subjects. It's an argument--a cogent one, but an argument nonetheless--and we must keep it in the proper perspective. There may be counter arguments in the future. We can't latch onto one and reject another simply because of personal preference.

Whether the term "conspirituality" sticks or not--and I expect it will not, and will probably be replaced in the future by a different term--this article at least demonstrates a step toward the progression of academic researchers making sense of what's happening. We're not "done" by any means. This is not a "magic bullet" that will prove the instant death of groups we personally disagree with, and I caution you not to view this article as that sort of thing. This is part of the intellectual puzzle, nothing more.

I have to admit that I was somewhat reluctant to comment on the "conspirituality" article, although I agree strongly with its premises, because of its very sudden discovery by James Kush and company in the context of Zeitgeist. Although I support Kush, Mario Brotha, JimJesus etc. to the greatest extent I can--because I believe all of them, and you, raise cogent issues about groups like Zeitgeist and Desteni--sometimes you guys make it very difficult for us to make any headway in opposing these groups, because, to be quite honest, you guys all go way too far in using anything that comes across the transom that puts these groups in a negative light. The obsessive hatred toward VTV and Voice of Reason, for instance, makes it look like it's personal as opposed to a reasoned opposition to what these groups are based on or stand for. Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning your motives. But when so many of your posts (here, and on Kush's blog, and elsewhere) are about "poop meat," which is such nonsense I can't even get my head around it--and when JimJesus devotes such exorbitant effort to exposing how wrong VOR is on everything he says, which (I might add) is perfectly obvious to the rational world without anyone having to point it out--it makes it rather difficult for some of us to make use of things like the "conspirituality" article, which in fact raises extremely important points about what these groups believe, what they stand for and why rational people should oppose them.

I really hope you don't take this comment in the wrong spirit. All I'm saying is, be careful what you all say about this article, how you apply its reasoning and how you argue its conclusions. Fundamentally we're all on the same side, opposing the egregious abuses of reason committed by people connected to Zeitgeist and Thrive, but we have a duty to oppose these groups fairly, rationally and with tact and moderation. That's all I'm saying here, so I hope you appreciate the point I'm trying to get across.