Skeptic Project

An interesting thread, I hadn't spotted it before, whilst sitting here eating my lunch of peanuts, I couldn't help but think of what I might say..

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=7&id=92287&limit=10&limitstart=60&

> The first city should not be a place where people just live.

> It's also going to be a display center for all nations and all peoples to come and
> see what the future could be; a sort of science museum of the future.

So, its not going to be tested with real people to see if the technological solutions displayed can actually work in the real world..

Nor is it going to particularly help the homeless either..

> I see people out there creating communities. They are not really doing what needs
> to be done.

Says the person who lives in a nice apartment and isn't homeless..

Meanwhile, the rest of us, hello! we would like a nice apartment too!

Oh and we would like to stop starving to death as well please..
(He says down to a budget of 23 pence a day for food..)

> This has to spread internationally. It can't just be a restricted thing.

Communities can be international..

> The first city can't just be a happy community where somehow it's all self sustained.

Any why not ?

Build enough of those, and everyones got someplace nice to live in..

> That's actually quite dangerous because that's going to attract a strange
> perception and within the monetary system

There are ways to build communities without being throught of as another Waco.

Look at this example in the UK, now do we see them constantly in the news as a bunch of loonies..

http://www.findhorn.org

We could cover the entire planet in communities like that and fix the world, and not upset folk anything near like PJ is afraid of. (Perhaps his mind is too fixated on the likes of imaging every community is like Waco..)

I can imagine them getting to that point eventually, but what would be the point :-)

Just another Disney Epcot centre..

People already know they want flush toilets..

They just need a hand to be living in a place with them.

He doesn't strike me as incompetent at design and engineering, only in the process of coordinating effort to do something with his talents.

Though strictly speaking, you don't need any talent at all in those areas, if you just get everyone else to do the work, you just need to lead, coordinate.

Which is what I had hoped TVP would get into, or TZM, but alas no.

Its perhaps interesting how many organisations suffer the same issues over and over again, as if we never seem to learn from others mistakes! (Its almost as if what we do is hardwired into us..)

Anyhow, I've finished my lunch, so back to work for me!

I do yes, any help very much appreciated:

http://www.nanos.org.uk/paypal/paypal.htm

Thanks, that will go a fair way when checking out the reduced section at Tesco.