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The reason is nanos they dont exist, you cant prove to a ghost you are more human than it.

Illuminati is myth. Jacque is CT.

Don't compare yourself to me. You are crazy. I am not.

I don't think Ed was trying to dispute that Fresco was a CT, but was trying to rationalize it.

While I don't agree with it, it isn't the same thing.

Get a job.

Yeah, I did think you were a nice guy. Then your passive aggressive bullshit came shining through in a different thread. I've got no respect for that kind of shit or the people who engage in it, because they're fucking fake. They put forth an image, but every now and then the mask will slip. Yours slipped. This nice guy act is just that: an act.

Basically, I think you're a goddamn nutcase. You think you're above everyone else in terms of ability, but just like everyone else when it comes to flaws. You're crazy, man. Get some help. I'm so tired of reading your stupid posts about how you're going to improve your telepathic abilities with parabolic dishes or that you're going to invent some solar car. You've been consistently homeless, have absolutely no education and are FUCKING CRAZY.

There, I got it out and I feel better now.

> Get a job.

I was already looking, but its good advice none the less.

> your passive aggressive

Whilst there is nothing passive about your approach!

But hey, at least your honest and direct, and thats very useful for helping folk to learn I find, as long as they don't get caught up disagreeing with you.

> You think you're above everyone else in terms of ability

Well, someones got to be smarter than someone else, I'm sure you are smarter than a lot of folk.

> just like everyone else when it comes to flaws.

I really want to hear what my flaws are, so I can work on them, as such, you are a very valuable resource in that regard as you tell me!

> some solar car.

I'll come back to you when its built and I'm using it.

I'd like to give you a big thank you for confirming a theory several people put to me, that no one will take me seriously until after I've done something noticeable.

You know, more folk should listen to your advice, its good.

This is exactly what I meant about plausible denial, my entire point in this thread wasn't trying "rationalising it" as Matt put it, it was wanting more information so as to make these denials even less plausible if they are as they appear.

I might be a bit dumb here but is there more than one Illuminati [rhetorical] :D

If not then how can anyone do a mental backflip out of this by attempted redefinition or pointing to some other group with a label that does not apply to it ?

If Fresco wasn't so old and didn't deny 911 CT's it would be clearer, but here's there's room to wiggle.

anticultist, isn't it strange that someone would deny 911 CT's straight out yet seem to believe in the Illuminati? It suggests that what he is saying is at least a bit different to what the currently popular idea (ie Alex Jones') of the Illuminati is. Therefore, I for one would like to know what HE means. Maybe its just as crazy, maybe its not.

"Age" being that he is senile, however that point was really just for his fans since they could probably imagine he just didnt really mean it so the whole plausible denial thing. Personally I find that defence unlikely as he seems like he understands other questions without trouble.

If he keeps repeating the same things over and over like a wind up toy then that would suggest to me that he has lost some mental faculties... understandable at 94. However as I said, he seems to understand the rest of the conversation and very quickly said "no" to the 911 points so I find that unlikely.

911 was combined with the Illuminati after it happened, the idea of the Illuminati has been around longer in the CT field and has not changed its meaning. How anyone can attempt to justify a new meaning to it all of a sudden because fresco says it is pure Bullshit.

Like you said he seems to answer other questions with his sidestepping rhetoric or clearly when it suites him, why do we have to give him benefit of doubt.

I think all this age stuff is just excuses and is irrelevant, he was asked outright and said he believed in it. he knows hes on a CT program why would he think the question was discussing anything but what was directly asked.

No I am not accepting the plausible deniability excuse.

It just infuriates me how people can be excused from the same Bullshit statements because of some reasoning as to who they are, its ridiculous.

If I said this you guys would be all over me and would not let it lie, and the CT'rs would befriend me because I said it. You would never excuse me for trying to redefine it you would simply say I was CT and that would be the truth of the matter.

911 was combined with the Illuminati after it happened, the idea of the Illuminati has been around longer in the CT field and has not changed its meaning. How anyone can attempt to justify a new meaning to it all of a sudden because fresco says it is pure Bullshit.

If you can show me some Illuminati believers today, aside from Fresco, that has also said that 911 was not an inside job then I will agree with you. If not, Im going to say there's a question mark there as to why not.

That might suggest that Fresco doesn't really understand what the Illuminati conspiracy entails.

Exactly. Still ...based on what he admitted to it wouldnt absolve him of everything, it would still make him a CT, but how much? Thats why I would like to know more.

This is where you and I agree, Ed. I still don't think he really understands the Illuminati CT and just agreed with the talk show host in order to seem hip.