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This is just disinfo

The articles says why the Protocols are mentioned:

The relationship between two texts
It is easy enough to say that there is a large cross-over of content between Zeitgeist and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion by plucking a few choice quotes. For example, where Zeitgeist says, “International bankers now have a streamlined machine to expand their personal ambitions”, The Protocols says “the wheels of the machine of all the states are moved by the force of the engine, which is in our [the Jews'] hands, and the engine of the machinery of our states is Gold .” But I would suggest that this sort of critique does not go far enough, rather I would like to show that the entire argument of the third section of the film has been lifted from The Protocols. It is the same argument, often in slightly altered language, and as such is just as anti-Semitic. I will focus on five particular aspects: The one world government; the use of war; manipulation of the populace; the focus on gold and money; and the idea of an all-powerful secret cabal.

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I do not see these concepts as being at odds with each other.

As far as why Icke isn't mentioned, I guess because this isn't an article about Icke and Icke was not in the movie.

The reason I mentioned David Icke is because he is is considered an anti-semite by many, and he is quoted in Zeitgeist, so it's the same situation as with Lyndon LaRouche. I'm guessing the author of this article probably doesn't know who David Icke is.

I remember seeing Icke in the 9/11 section. Also David Icke stole Bill Hicks' "life is like a ride..." bit and the two were edited together at the end of Zeitgeist.

If I am remembering right, there was video or audio of him talking about 9/11. But since all of the video from Zeitgeist 1 was taken from older videos, I guess you could count that as a quote too.

Icke was used alongside BillHicks speech about its just a ride. Merola kept jumping between Hicks and Icke making the speech

But honestly, this thread was not to say OMG ZEITGEISTERS HATE JEWS! It was to discuss the parallels between NWO conspiracies and anti-Semitism. I have edited the title to reflect that.

Ok, I agree with you that there are parallels, it's not like the two things have nothing to do with each other. I just think the author of this article goes way overboard.

It is easy enough to say that there is a large cross-over of content between Zeitgeist and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion by plucking a few choice quotes. For example, where Zeitgeist says, “International bankers now have a streamlined machine to expand their personal ambitions”, The Protocols says “the wheels of the machine of all the states are moved by the force of the engine, which is in our [the Jews'] hands, and the engine of the machinery of our states is Gold .”

This part seems to be stretching to make a connection, maybe I would find it more credible if he compared more then two sentences. Then the article gives these five comparisons: "The one world government; the use of war; manipulation of the populace; the focus on gold and money; and the idea of an all-powerful secret cabal." Well all of those ideas existed before the Protocols. Something like fear of world government is to broad of a subject to say that it all comes from the Protocols of Zion. In the article he says "Again, for the sake of trying not to appear as racist as they really are, the word Jew is replaced with “international bankers.”" So he is not simply making an argument that antisemitism has had an influence on these theories, which has truth to it, but that the believers are all antisemitic, which is just dumb. I did like the part of the article about Louis McFadden though. McFadden was a racist who thought Jewish Bankers ruled the world, but Zeitgeist made him out to be a hero who fought the bankers and didn't mention the jewish part. This was a better point to criticize then trying to make comparisons with the Protocols.

I think some people assume too much about how deeply PJ thought into ZG1.

He clearly just read some conspiracy books/films and then copy and pasted it all, he repeated all kinds of quotes and claims without checking where they came from just like most CT's

I think its far more likely PJ just saw any quote he found and put it in the film because it sounded good. That's why so many quotes in the film are so flat out nonsense, its why he even got the Robin Cook quote in Addendum completely wrong. He just doesn't give a shit as far as I can see.