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| Kepp | Posted: Jul 10, 2010 - 23:34 |
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 Level: 5 CS Original | So after my insane smoking session with a hardcore CT buddy, I decided to Google something I remember him mentioning just for shits and giggles. Wow: http://www.examiner.com/x-23787-Denver-Skepticism-Examiner~y2009m10d7-The-Freeman-on-the-Land-myth-Debunked | |||||
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| Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 00:25 |
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 President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | That stupid shit (among nearly every other conspiracy theory) is a major part of Benjamin Stewart's films Esoteric Agenda and Kymatica, god what an idiot. You can find court cases where people tried to use this defense. My name EDWARD L WINSTON represents a corporation, not me, oh no! I don't usually call believers in conspiracy theorists idiots, but this one is just so beyond stupid, it's on David Icke levels or retardedness. | |||||
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| Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 11:40 |
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 Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I love how all the people who preach about sovereign citizens and not having to pay taxes also have to include a line on their site about how they cannot legally provide financial advice. | |||||
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| Alton | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 14:29 |
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 Level: 1 CS Original | I always laughed when they made that disclosure about not providing legal and financial advice when they actually are! lol I had a debate with a Freeman on the land advocate on TZM forums once and up to now he has not provided conclusive evidence of these methods working. He even told me to join couple forums to ask people who are doing it, and when I checked them out, all I saw were more advices and statements like "each method may not work for everyone the same way". The only thing that appears to work is these "experts" selling lectures, DVDs and books about it and the many buyers of these stuff not trying it. | |||||
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| Ed | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 16:00 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | I bet they dont have any problem taking free healthcare in the UK. | |||||
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| Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 16:09 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | American (except Louisiana) law is based on English Common Law, Ed, you started it! You're to blame! | |||||
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| Ed | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 16:10 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | To be honest I dont really know what these guys believe but it sounds stupid :) | |||||
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| Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 16:15 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | The claims are just nutty as hell, and a way to avoid obeying laws they don't like. Some of them claim the false-laws are based on Roman Law, which is contrary to all history. Most say they're based on Admiralty Law, which they use as some vague conspiratorial set of laws where if your NAME IS IN ALL CAPS then it doesn't represent you, but a corporation of you which was used to get loans for the Federal Reserve. Sound fucking crazy? It is. | |||||
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| Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 16:29 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES BECAUSE.... UH..... THE CONSTITUTION OR SOMETHING! | |||||
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| Alton | Posted: Jul 12, 2010 - 12:02 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Another wacko claim by them is your birth certificate is actually a trust that earns millions of dollars each year with the Department of Treasury and the Government uses this money to invest in stock. However, to reclaim your sovereignty of being a free man!, there are remedies (filling out certain UCC forms and so forth) in controlling this account on your own making you a millionaire. Awesome isn't it? | |||||
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| Muertos | Posted: Jul 12, 2010 - 14:22 |
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 Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | This one is so logically defective that it should be obvious it's bullshit, but you know those CTs are allergic to logic. This is a variation of what they call over at Screw Loose Change "the sacred list." Conspirators will do all kinds of horrible things, killing people, covering it up etc., but they blanch at forging or tampering with official documentation. Like, Griffin's false claims about hijackers not being on passenger manifests, as if the conspirators couldn't very easily forge a list with those names on them. But no, CTs insist that the absence of the names "proves" something. This Freeman garbage is the same thing. If Edward L. Winston is different than EDWARD L WINSTON and using one or the other is a get out of jail free card, why wouldn't the evil gubbermint just close this loophole? You wouldn't even need to pass a law to do it, just an executive order or IRS interpretation or something. But no, the evil gubbermint, which supposedly blew up 3,000 of its own citizens on 9/11, is too scared of tampering with officialdom that they let this loophole stand with full knowledge that it supposedly gets people out of paying taxes or obeying laws or crap like that. Same with tax protester arguments. If Section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code really contained a wording loophole that let you not pay taxes on your income, why didn't Congress just redo the wording ages ago? You never hear CTs answer questions like these. | |||||
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