Skeptic Project

> Who are all these leet historians and academics you have hung around with Nanos?

I do remember one was called Mr Whippy :-)

Seriously though, dealing with thousands upon thousands of such people, its not particularly easy to remember their names years later, not when I have more important things to shove into my head.

Its where I used to work for 2 years, I could show you a group staff photo, my old work ID, you could even ask folk if they remember me, as I was one of the most helpful members of staff around. (And one of the most PITA to management..)

> They just don't take it because they don't want to end up like you.

Being homeless is not usually something you take, it something that happens to you.

> People don't understand you because they haven't had the opportunity to be homeless
> and unemployed for years?

You know, its remarkable how similar rich folk on another forum are to some people here..

> As far as I know, the UK (and the US) do not have such laws.

Being as the UK love to almost make up laws on the spot and bend existing ones as suits them, I'm not prepaired to risk an awkward situation developing just so I can prove a point with the odd jerk or two when I have better things to do with my time and effort.

> I still can't comprehend your solar vehicle bike horn!

I'm puzzled as to what there is to comprehend beyond its obvious nature, perhaps you might explain what aspects puzzle you, or that you don't understand, or that you think are weird, odd/etc.

> Just being old and living through a time period, does not make someone a historian.

Actually it does rather help :-)

I guess you missed the bit above that said "who learnt themselves how to do the job."

Its like when I went on an archaeological course, I didn't need a degree to learn how to be an archaeologist, I just needed some field experience, an expert to answer my questions, and some books to read and learn from.

> do it.

Then I suggest we put forward names of someone who we can both trust enough to verify my claims.

Offhand, I think I might be able to trust domokato to view a copy of my work ID and staff photo, on the condition that they neither pass on these pictures, destroy them once viewed and only confirm that I worked at a place that is consistant with my story that I could indeed come into contact with the people I said I did, and not mention specifically where I used to work to anyone.

> Holocaust denier

Thats like calling a green who believes in low CO2 emission vehicles an anti-vehiclist.

Its perhaps interesting that we have access to people who are able to verbalise well enough to tell us how many ordinary folk see the world in black and white, and you are either with us or against us, and no inbetween.

I find it useful in helping me figure out the best way to deal with such people, and to design communities accordingly to cope with folk who are like this. (Eg. you cannot necessarly design a rational solution, you must take into account peoples often at times irrational behaviour and plan accordingly.)

Maybe I should act like Ed now? Which is:
"Nanos, how did you feel when members of conspiracy science called you a Holocaust Denier?"
"What do you mean nothing?"
"What did you feel?"
"No, this is not about choosing sides. How did you feel about it?"

Welcome to the world of Black & White.

This is turning into such a success. Makes me want to celebrate.

If we left this puddle I fear whats left may drown.

Fuck you Nanos.

You are not a genius.

You are an unemployed, homeless moron.

You will always be an unemployed, homeless moron.

You will never be anything more than an unemployed, homeless moron.

You will die alone and in poverty after a life of complete and total failure.

And nothing of value will be lost.

> You are no higher up the evolutionary ladder than the rest of us

Thats because the rest of you are likewise many rungs up the ladder.

> you are just making yourself look like a big headed dork.

I'm in good company then :-)

Not that I think you Edward (Nor a few others.) come across like that.

> Why third party?

A few reasons, I don't trust that the information won't be put to a bad use at some point, and I'm not supposed to tell anyone what I did or where I worked.

Now..

Should I put myself on the line to prove a point, or should I withdraw my offer, decisions decisions..

Now usually I go to great pains to prove I'm telling the truth. (Why just today I had an argument about how I appeared to be the only person out of thousands who could find a cheap car rental, when other 'experts' failed to do so, they simply didn't believe me, so I had to show them the website page, and even then because it failed to mention one small detail that they had to phone up to confirm, they still thought I was lying (And they have known me for 15+ years, so I have rather a history of proving myself.), but luckily I actually have some receits which I offered to scan to prove I really was telling the truth!)

Now, I don't wish to get lost in the quest of proving myself all the time, when it could actually negatively impact on my life, so I think for once I'm going to withdraw the offer and say screw you guys I'm going home.

I'm sure there will be other things we can argue about that I can prove.

I can imagine Michelangelo had the same problem with the Sistine Chapel.

Perhaps your unfamilar with the term work in progress.

But still, I find your input invaluable, and I am listening.

I'll get back to you when I have more to show you.

Do keep pressing for progress though, you are doing an important role that we must have, otherwise I might be tempted to watch day time TV and let the world go to rack and ruin.