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Agent MattPosted: Jul 24, 2010 - 16:00
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How many professional* CTs can you think of that have used original ideas and how many can you think of that have blatantly just repackaged old bullshit?

As CTs are so incestuous with their fantasies, they only need to come up with a new CT to add. They may still rehash other conspiracies as long as they add something original to the pot.

*By professional I mean anyone who has made money from it.

Original:

Preston Nichols
Joseph Matheny
Richard Gage
Judy Wood
Jim Fetzer
William Cooper

Ripoffs:

Alex Jones
Peter Merola

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Omni-SciencePosted: Jul 24, 2010 - 16:03
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Ordo Ab Chao.

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Acharya S?

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Energy TurtlePosted: Jul 24, 2010 - 16:26
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I heard that Alex Jones had Bill Cooper killed.

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MuertosPosted: Jul 24, 2010 - 17:06
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You could put Icke in either category, really. He rehashes a lot of old 19th/early 20th century anti-Jewish CTs, and technically speaking the idea of reptoids has been around at least since the 50s (so far as I know), but he certainly combined and embellished both ideas in an original way.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Jul 25, 2010 - 00:48
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Bill Cooper is just ripping off the protocols of the elders of Zion, only replacing Jews with Freemasons. I'm not counting the UFO stuff because he revoked all that stuff.

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The Burger KingPosted: Jul 25, 2010 - 02:33
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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William Cooper is nuts I downloaded 17 gigs of his BS and listen to only a very small fraction of it. I should upload a episode called, "Don Ecker [Dark Matters Radio] - William Cooper expose" where a CT radio host exposes William Cooper and it becomes obvious William is way out there. I suppose to Williams benefit I cannot disprove nor prove the guy right or wrong at his outlandish claims, but the guy simply did some nut ball things that makes me if not everybody else question his sanity not even factoring in his credibility.

When listening to some of William Cooper's stuff a lot of it is original but some is burrowed off concept and he slightly modifies it when he finds holes in his own logic. Unfortunately the internet in Williams times was not like it is now and therefore trying to compare his previous information in the past off the fly was hard to do, therefore William could get away with creating new modified conspiracy theories not his unknowing conspiracy theorist audience; point example JFK assassin was the guy sitting in the front passenger side of car and used a gun that shot out a very deadly puff fish toxin in it that actually killed JFK. Originally Williams statement was that he got shot by a small gun... Complete BS artist, but one could get away with very modified conspiracy theories easier, years ago.

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The Burger KingPosted: Jul 25, 2010 - 03:30
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I'll be double posting but listening to Williams Cooper's spiel he started mentioning things about how money is made out of debt in as earlier as 1989 matter in fact I have the recording "William Cooper - Sedona, Arizona - September 24, 1989" at which he talks about a book I think it's called "Modern Money Mechanics" or something similar to it. The way William describes it is almost identical to the way Peter Merola describes it it's like Peter just lifted Williams speech and presentation. William even talks about peak oil which is identical rhetoric Peter Merola is saying. I should really get some of this stuff online so you can here some of this crazy stuff... I think William Cooper actually believed in what he said to the extent of dying for it... I'm going to go out here on a limb and say a lot of Williams earlier pieces sound really legit I'll be honest and then his later pieces just simply make no sense. As he keeps revising one can tell he's bullshitting when he all of a sudden remembers a top secret document of some super secret thing that he had some how forgot or wait the government tried to blank out his mind and that's why he's having problems remembers, oh wait the government force fed him bad information and some legit to test him, oh wait etc... The BS seems to keep rolling with him all the way to his grave unfortunately now the guy is a martyr as upon some research his following is bigger than Alex Jones as far as people that believe him. I bet this is what's going to happen to the venus project when Fresco dies...

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duncanlecombrePosted: Jul 25, 2010 - 23:55
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What kind of stuff did bill say in his earlier stuff?
And on a side note what do you guys think of Jon Todd he seems to have that martyr thing going for him as well.

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The Burger KingPosted: Jul 26, 2010 - 01:56
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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"duncanlecombre: What kind of stuff did bill say in his earlier stuff?"

I have only listened to a small fraction of the 17 gig collection I have on William cooper but some of his older stuff dating back from 1989 talks about debt creation, Vietnam, his thoughts and opinions about the world.

I suppose if you or anybody is interested I can stream William Cooper over shoutcast sometime for people that are interested to listen too.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Jul 26, 2010 - 20:24
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@Billll

Does that stuff predate the Freemasons control everything CT, cause I thought that was his main "thing". Did he come up wit the Freemason stuff later, and by come up with I mean did he find a new secret document he mis-placed because the government blacked his mind out.

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The Burger KingPosted: Jul 26, 2010 - 22:12
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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his main this is the Illuminati stuff and freemason, Bill Cooper was apprently apart of the Freemason group sometime earlier in his life until his family picked up and moved somewhere else. A audio recording I have been listening to called "Mystery Babylon show: William Cooper - UFOs - The Illuminati - Collosal Conspiracy" states most of this. Unsure when the recording/interview took place I'm sure with some research it can be found out. Does mention as far as current events Bill Clinton, so some time in when Bill Clinton was in office.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Jul 26, 2010 - 23:05
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Yeah I read he was in the order of the demoley, it's like a youth version of the Freemasons. I also read that his superiors in the army asked if he was involved with any masonic groups before he could have access to secret documents and that he told them he was in the demoley. This was the main thing that made me think he was full of BS, why would the lowest easiest to get in level of the "Illuminati" be good enough to bestow secret documents?

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