Skeptic Project

"Nope. Part I is rock solid. Very little changes. Just because lazy people only know how to do internet searches and/or open household encyclopedias doesn't mean the data is unfounded. Again, the Guide will show the way. The most substantial changes are in Part 3, which I expanded and clarified. The points, however, are the same."

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=277902#278241

So I guess this means there were no "substantial changes" to the second part? I'm just going to overlook how absurd it is to consider that Acharya S is "rock solid" and ask that.

We are not a conspiracy movement! Also 911 was an inside job.

He just can't give up that recruitment tool. Why is "Guide" capitalized? Is that their Bible?

I have a feeling he himself hasn't read her.

Peter Joseph just wants you to blindly believe all of Acharya S's research, regardless of how much evidence is against it, that's REAL research!

I wonder if he's still going to claim Horus is the sun god instead of Ra.

I'm glad he posted this tonight, I'm having an ongoing debate (via email) with a Zeitgeister who's trying to tell me Merola is backing away from the claims of the first film. This will come in handy for support of my statement that Merola plans to do nothing of the kind.

He's already done that. Zeitgeisters are now talking up Douglas Mallette, who is/was a NASA scientist, as their latest poster boy spokesman. (Hmm, VTV isn't working out for them? Wonder why!)

I've done a couple of perfunctory searches to see if Mallette is a CT, but didn't come up with anything. However, I only spent about 5 minutes on it. Hopefully a NASA scientist is too smart to fall for Merola's folderol, but you never know.

Actually, I thought the guy didn't actually work for NASA, but worked for some subcontractor.

> Zeitgeisters are now talking up Douglas Mallette, who is/was a
> NASA scientist, as their latest poster boy spokesman.

Have they actually listened to what Douglas has to say, because I'm not sure many TZM folk will actually agree with it :-)

Basically he says what me and others banned have been saying for years..

I can almost imagine PJ hasn't listened to what the guy has been saying either, or he might have banned him already!

Come to that, have you heard what VTV has been saying lately too..

Stuff, similar to Douglas.

I mean its all good stuff.

Just, I worry that they might both be banned for going against PJ

Of course, PJ might listen to reason...

(Actually, hasn't Fresco been saying the same things as Douglas and VTV lately.. perhaps Fresco is already banned from PJ's forum and that is why we never see him there!)

Have these people never seen Terminator!? Do they WANT Californian governors hunting us all?!

Here's a link to Douglas Mallette.I listened to about 3/4 of this. Seems like the guy is very idealistic and I'm not saying that's a bad things. I'll throw out some positives to this he seems to have the get it done attitude which I respect. Throughout it he kinda sort of has some good ideas but again their just like Fresco and he seems to love to talk a lot. I like the fact he basically comes right out and says both of Peter's zeitgeist movies have zero impact and are basically fear monger/conspiracy theory movies and the only part he took out from both of those movies is technological aspect. He even says that he's bored with the sociological aspect of it I imagine on both parts of Peter Merola and Fresco and that people want to do things. I also like the fact that he states that money isn't such a bad thing and is needed to build things.

I have a few negatives about what he said in this video. He says money isn't a bad thing and preaches not to say it's a bad thing to such people as engineers etc... In that he states to let people find out on their own that RBE will work which would suggest to me that he either doesn't think RBE will work or wants these people to eventually adopt the cult like TZm/TVP ideology when it comes to RBE. Another aspect is this guy seems to know his marketing at that he seems to want to milk the cow for all it's worth. He states that TZM/TVP needs to whore itself out every which way possible to get money, now I'm not against making money but the way he's saying to do it I'd be very uncomfortable myself in doing and at that it's almost like a religion the way he explains it. When he starts going over his laughable math and says if 400,000 from TZM people just gave us a dollar then we'd be able to start the city in no time.

He goes on to say if we had 25 million people donate $1 then we'd have 25 million dollar or something like that, well first of all money doesn't mean success in a BE and to fight RBE with money is good but he's wanting a abundance of money and that's what gets me a bit skeptical. It sounds like he wants a Fresco where people drop big bags of money on his doorstep and he does what he wants with it. I won't go into that spiel to much but I myself being a person who thinks the monetary system is good was a bit baffled by the way he explains to raise money through such things as lying and deception to do it... As much as I've seen it in the real world and I'm greatful for his honesty, the right type of people will come to the project you don't need to pull people into your project and indoctrinate them with bullshit conspiracy theory movies into the TZM cult.

When this guy says communes won't work because their some hippie thing again I thought it was a bit laughable. Communes do in fact work if you work hard at it and from the sound of this guys voice it doesn't sound like he's ever did and backbreaking laber in his entire life, and to be honest based on this guys voice he sounds like a treky idealist. Let me also say that he wants people to automatically drop their projects and come work on the venus project because it's the best idea out their, first of all telling people the communes do not work and things of that nature is very offence towards people actually in communes. I have had experience where individual/s have told me a open source project I was working on was no good and that their project was better and of course I took offence to it. How he says communes to not work without any scientific backing or anything of that nature simply states that he's been indoctrinated into the TVP cult to it's fullest extent that he in fact believes in RBE without it having any scientific bases.

Another negative aspect is they keep referring him as the NASA guy and promoting him with credentials. Doug himself even says such things as I'm the most technically in depth in the zeitgeist movement/venus project, and that I am able to talk to people. In that he mentions he doesn't work for NASA directly that he's more than likely a subcontractor so he doesn't work for NASA he works for a company.

That's the end of my positive/negative aspects on this guy. He also mentions particular ways to talk to engineers as people have apparently asked him if NASA supports TZM/TVP cult. He sates no he doesn't and that politics and NASA don't mix. I actually agree with him here. I myself work for the military doing mostly autocad work. I make sure not to mention politics and tings of that nature but in that same aspect I was able to collaborate with co-workers to work on a project outside of work which we are getting some major progress in, I don't think this guy would be a people person but it's just a hunch... This guy says a lot of truthful things the things about technology and peter are things I got banned for in the TZM/TVP cult, I suppose he should keep up that he works for NASA to avoid those bans because if you ban a guy that works for NASA then their is a problem =P

Link to a intro on Douglas Mallette the NASA guy below.

http://dotsub.com/view/2ff2a578-8db3-420f-aa1a-00f741a471db

decided to do some research on Douglas seems, I got a shitteload of links. I thought the guy was interesting until I found out he's a conspiracy theorist in his own right. He believes going into outer space will save humanity, he believes in aliens, believes we were here 400 million years ago and promotes the idea/concept, is into starwars, apparently has a strong interest in writing/creating movies kind of a mix between peter Merola and Fresco but he doesn't build anything. Their isn't any models or thing of that nature he actually builds and he has a fascination with outer space and moving their to the extent of wanting to build communities on the moon. I believe just like VTV but to a larger extent high jack TZM/TVP cult into his thought process in building spaceships and living in outerspace. He has a vendetta in a way similar to VTV and the tea bag but towards NASA and cooperation build spaceships more than likely that are better than NASA to prove something to himself. I imagine he does this so he doesn't waist time making starwars movies and fantasize about build space ships kind of like how VTV does with LARP except this guy has a education and credentials and well has intelligence (maybe their connected in some way). doug even admits in a blog comment he made that he wishes he could get out on the media better to put his ideas out there about space I can only imagine in time TZM/TVP turning into his idealisms of building spaceships and in that it'll save humanity *laughable*...

This just seems to be a self-fulling fantasy of Doug's. He fits RBE in their like that's the missing element to his puzzle but I highly doubt he believes in RBE and s just doing this not unlike VTV to self promote his ideas to the drones within TZM/TVP about space travel. being that Doug is 34 years of age I'd expect a little bit more from him but so far in his life the only thing he's managed to create is a starwars movie and ripped a mash of videos/put them all together/put his name on it and titles it/then did self promotion on it... Doug is just taking advantage of TZM/TVP cult to promote his junk but at best he's no better than Fresco. I imagine this is good for Doug's sales to the book he put out as well...

Links below to doug if anybody wants to know more about him
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Douglas-Mallette/126597571796</p>

http://www.facebook.com/douglas.mallette</p>

http://www.myspace.com/460295840</p>

http://vimeo.com/groups/1617</p>

http://vimeo.com/user557379</p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFuccvERwY

http://www.spacevidcast.com/2009/12/18/douglas-mallette-author-of-turning-point-2-38/</p>

http://www.spacefuture.com/journal/journal.cgi?art=2009.11.09.douglas_mallette

http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/</p>

http://www.hobbyspace.com/nucleus/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2009-12

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/douglas-mallette/b/507/ab</p>

look on page 3 (on link below)
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/July2010NL.pdf</p>

on page 10 (link below) (Afternoon)
2:00 - 2:45 -- (1) Space & the Rise or Fall of Humanity. Douglas Mallette.
(2) Personal Liberty & Lunar Settlements. James E. Dunstan)

http://isdc.nss.org/2010/ISDC-Preliminary-Program.pdf</p>

http://www.blogger.com/profile/04968228480817489654</p>

Talks about building a moobbase in 10 years, bet he's trying to push the venus project for his own little starwars fantasies (link below
http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/2010/06/spacex-launch-afterthoughts.html</p>

lengthy discussion (link below)
http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/2010/06/pitiful-path-we-walk-today.html</p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Kndd96yLE

http://www.peninsulaclarion.com/stories/072010/obi_678986806.shtml</p>

his youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/TZMSocialEvolution</p>

Douglas Mallette author of Turning Point - 2.38 go 30 mins into it (link below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Kndd96yLE

(site birthdate and Doug's birthdate is a virgo, link below)
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Douglas%20Mallette,%20Webster,%20TX&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:1001293917

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3309142/</p>

Douglas Mallette and "Turning Point" How Space Exploration Will Determine the Rise or Fall of Humanity
(link below)
http://kboo.fm/node/21686</p>

(starwars webboard, avatar used is Darth Vader, link below)
http://swtheforgotten.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=mastersith

(Welcome to Star Wars: The Forgotten!, the movie, starrs as Protector Captain Dizz Douglas Mallette - Profile)
http://www.swtheforgotten.com/castandcrew.html</p>

(Space Settlement Blog Day, link below)

http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/2009/07/space-settlement-blog-day.html</p>

http://www.meetup.com/space-8/members/10748461/?op=&memberId=10748461

(book: title Turning point by Doug, abstract: Turning Point breaks down how space exploration and development can solve many of the key issues we face today in America, such as employment, education, the environment, energy, and international relations. The future of humanity is its exploration of the stars., link below)
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/turning-point/5492504</p>

http://www.watkins.edu/current-students/academic-programs/film-school</p>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/douglas-mallette</p>

http://www.spacerenaissance.org/sri-list.htm</p>

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art15438/this-week-on-the-space-show.html</p>

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_community&view=profile&userid=34244&Itemid=1909

http://jesseknoll.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/nasa-being-nasa/</p>

http://zeitgeisthouston.com/aboutus.php</p>

(admit he wishes he could get to a lot of people really fast, link below)
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2010/01/new-poll-shows.html</p>

http://spaceref.net/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&blog_id=14&id=684

Bickering with some memebrs (link below)
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2010/01/avatar-a-stunni-1.html</p>

http://www.space.com/common/community/profile.php?u=1031826

http://www.space.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20120

http://zeitgeisttalks.com/lecture.php?id=7

(look for dou's name should be there)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/tzmlondon

another inerveiw (link below)
http://www.latalkradio.com/TJ.php</p>

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/236/1120</p>

http://spacetweepsociety.org/bio/douglasmallette</p>

http://www.greenroomorlando.com/CrewCallDetails.aspx?ID=533

http://www.tedafrica.org/profiles/view/id/548381</p>

Technology vs. Monetary Economics, it's a interesting read on Doug's thoughts, (link below)
http://www.examiner.com/x-38938-Milwaukee-Business-Insight-Examiner~y2010m6d29-Technology-vs-Monetary-Economics

(doug beleives in aliens and conspriacy theory's (link below)
http://thespaceadvocate.blogspot.com/2009/07/oddities-in-our-world.html</p>

more CT's from doug (link below)
http://digg.com/users/SpaceAdvocate/history<br /> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

For fuck sakes Billl, if you're going to make a post that long that isn't on topic, create a new thread.

@Matt LOL

@Nanos because spaceships don't help humanity it just helps Doug that much closer to building a moonbase. I believe Doug is what one would call a moon fanatic or more typically called a mooniac.

@Special Ed good idea, I had been researching this Doug guy before someone posted anything on him. I found him to be a bit out there but at times he manages to sputter sentence fragments that make somewhat sense amongst his idealistic fictional statements.

On a different note, I have been doing some research on Fresco and surprisingly with a help of a few people was able to find some interesting things that would be able to prove he's full of BS (majority of it on his resume)... When I compile all the info I have I'll post it up here asap.

There is a lot to be said for going to the moon..

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/helium3_000630.html</p>

Though I reckon there is tons of profit to be made from just putting satellites into orbit.

You got to admit, GPS is useful..