Skeptic Project

I think deserves its own thread so it does not get lost because I am sure he is going to backpedal and delete this thread when his movie is released and ripped to shreds again.

Anyone screen grabbed all this ?

I have the php all saved

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=277902

Zeitard says:

Hey there, I know Peter Joseph is pretty busy in regards the creation of Zeitgeist 3, but I was curious exactly if there was any plan at all to get the 4th edition of the film on DVD to sell. I was heavily in buying both ZG1+2 but I wanted to hold back on it until PJ came out with the updated version of ZG1.

Which on another note I have to ask... what are you calling it exactly? Will it be a Directors Cut or just the 4th version of the film?

Peter Joseph says:

It isn't a "Directors Cut" - it is simply an update, removing problem points and expanding on others. I'm not putting it out until the 200-300 page guide is done. I have a group helping with that as I work on Z:MF. The problem with that work is that it is too easy for people to project into and draw erroneous conclusions with regard to the facts and intents. Lazy research is also a problem, to say the least. This Guide will end that for the most part. Granted, the hardcore anti-zeitgeist bigots will just find new ways to claim it is "debunked," avoiding my sources once again... but at least with the Guide it will be more clear to those who are actually objective and have an interest to understand the content/sources in an unbiased manner. Also, the "versions" issue is not really the correct denotion. These are replacement updates. It is simply "Zeitgeist: The Movie" perhaps with a temporary subtext of "2010 Update". Just as a book undergoes updated editions, this film does the same. The updated film itself has actually been done since late 2009. As of now, I am waiting on one more data set for the Guide and then it can be released both online and in DVD form. I suspect I can get it in DVD form/online by Aug. So - wait until then if you want the updated version to spread. I'm actually very proud of it and the process of re-review I have been conducting has only solidified the integrity of the work's message and factual nature.

zeitard says:

Nice to know and glad to hear you are putting all this work into it. While I may not be a fan of the part about 911, but I am regularly an advocate about the part of religion (this being a personal view of mine as I am very careful not to project this onto the views of the movement as a while). I started researching it sometime last year, starting with the works of Acharya and going on from there. Thus far I have found a lot of evidence to support what the first portion of the film says (despite all the documentaries and internet articles made by online persona's, typically religious fundamentalist Christians).

I look forward to seeing the latest update and hope it puts a lot of the debunking efforts to rest.

Hey PJ, one more question about the new version of Zeitgeist: The Movie... which part is going to be the most heavily revamped? I am guessing it's the part about religion huh? I only guess because it has been the most heavily attacked part out of all of ZG1.

Peter Joseph says:

Nope. Part I is rock solid. Very little changes. Just because lazy people only know how to do internet searches and/or open household encyclopedias doesn't mean the data is unfounded. Again, the Guide will show the way. The most substantial changes are in Part 3, which I expanded and clarified. The points, however, are the same.

"So, does this mean the 9/11 section will stay?"

As far as I understand it, yes.

There's no way he could give up that recruitment tool.

There's another thread where he gives more details about the new version, such as the North American Union part being taken out:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=7&id=266724

>> "There are also deliberate exaggerations as the work is artistic in it means. It is a combination of gesture and fact and is deliberately provocative."

But it's rock solid!

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He can find "sources" for whatever conspiracy stuff he wants. Hell, I got a source that says JFK was shot because he was trying to end the Federal Reserve, the same government that shot him is also run by a top-secret illuminati-style conspiracy that works in league with aliens (this is the work of Jim Marrs).

What a dingbat Merola is, I have saved both posts as php in case he swings around later on down the line.

I had a little chuckle at the "200-300 page guide". 100 pages seems like a pretty big discrepancy, even for a ballpark figure.