Skeptic Project

Because they fill gullible peoples' heads with bullshit like this:

www.burzynskiclinic.com/ It has a number you can call for advice.

My Mum has cancer, and it is a very emotional film, but the facts are indisputable.

Antineoplasms work and chemo doesn't.

My mum was diagnosaed in 2004 and treated on chemo and radiotherapy, and we watched her hair fall out and her body be amputated. Thankfully, it had disappeared.

But in 2010 it came back.

She is now trying to get whatever treatment is available in the UK and I honestly think Burzynski's method will work.

Does that baking soda thing work as well? I'm skeptical, but I think the number on the site will help wonders.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=231&id=342998&Itemid=100114&lang=en#346059

I really wish they would both get hit by a bus. I have a special loathing for snake oil salesmen selling empty hopes. They're both shit.

Empty hopes are fine believe all the garbage you want. The moment you start asking people to take empty hopes over viable cures for terminal illnesses is when I get angry.

Here is something curious. I was reading one of the quack links that was posted on the forum and it mentioned that there are no determinable results that antineoplastons work after thousands of tests on patients, but people still come out and protest trials on behalf of Dr. Burzynski. When confronted with that, Dr. Timothy Gorski says "People who are dead do not get up and say, 'Burzynski did nothing for me.'"

This is curious because where are the families who survive the death of a loved one at the hands of this treatment? Why wouldn't they go and protest these trials on behalf of the FDA that is trying to secure a conviction over Burzynski? If it was my Dad, Mom, or child who died from the cancer because of lack of efficacy I would want justice. What is the reasoning for not taking a stand against Burzynski?

http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-01-01/news/cancer-doctor-stanislaw-burzynski-sees-himself-as-a-crusading-researcher-not-a-quack/3/

This is curious because where are the families who survive the death of a loved one at the hands of this treatment? Why wouldn't they go and protest these trials on behalf of the FDA that is trying to secure a conviction over Burzynski? If it was my Dad, Mom, or child who died from the cancer because of lack of efficacy I would want justice. What is the reasoning for not taking a stand against Burzynski?

Probably because he is not being charged with murder/manslaughter or anything that requires him to defend himself against those charges or claims. He is probably only being charged with some kind of financial misdemeanour which wont require those kinds of witness testimonies.

Sloan-Kettering on antineoplastons:
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69121.cfm

Funny why don't real doctors have disclaimers like that?

hence the words disclaimer...but that doesnt stop you from being sued in the real world if what you are doing is illegal.

All woo sites have them too, but woo sites think a disclaimer prevents them from being sued, in the same way pirates think having a disclaimer allows them to break the law.

Fucking retards

My point was this: a disclaimer doesn't mean the site is automatically full of BS. I'd say the actual source is way more important than their disclaimer.

Quackery is still a gold mine, I occasionally work with somebody who made a real shitty decision in the past and started to sell alternative medicine junk. Cost him medium six figures in court and I hope the same will happen to the rest of these people.

Taking advantage of the - sometimes terminally - ill is pretty much the most despicable way you can make money in modern society. Sue them until they have to massage Fresco to pay the bills; I don't have pity with somebody making the decision to get into something like that. There are more than enough warning signs along the way.

The only thing that comes close is the legal forms you sign pre op. These waiver rights for circumstances and assign rights to conduct operations, they dont say that the claims the doctors make of the procedures wont work. They generally say that they usually do work, but may not under extreme circumstances, quite different disclaimers.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/about/</p>

No bullshit disclaimer there either.

yeah good point alexa, but their disclaimers are not quite the same as the ones used by woo sites.

I just didnt read the contents of the link past the beginning disclaimer at all alexa so I am mistaken if I thought it was woo, and since the threads about woo my point about woo sites and disclaimers is what I am interested in making.

I havent argued your site is a woo site after you made your point, just saying that woo sites do use that kind of shit as an excuse/scapegoat to say what they want.

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