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Omni-SciencePosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 01:56
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Ordo Ab Chao.

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ZOMG, 9/11 AND GULF OF TONKIN, I DESERVE UR MONIES FOR SPOUTING OUT TWOOFER SHIT.

</NEIL>

If Neil's "income" and "value" stems from his podcasts, then he should be getting nothing. Dude, you're trying to justify VTV's fatass-fuck lifestyle, and it ain't gonna fly. He's a loser fat fuck, and he's done nothing in life.

You want to end up the same way? Knock yourself out. But don't expect us to take you or your BS TZM/RBE rhetoric seriously. You CAN expect me to post hard chiseled spock everywhere though. I'm hoping your failure will allow it to be warranted in this thread.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:06
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Here is the problem with most of the people here: Lying denotes intent, if one is mistaken about something and maybe you bring up something in which the person accuses you having fabricated information about them and it was false, you cannot automatically deduce the person was lying. It may have been that they (in this case myself) was assuming old information held true now. Or in some cases, you believe the information you are putting forth and do not know it is fabricated to begin with and in such a case the person (me) jumped the gun. Either way, lying denotes intent.

Oh, you just happened to forget reaper and MicroGod were your accounts. God, I hate when I do that.

Pathologically lying is a different set of circumstances but you need to have an indepth knowledge about a persons psychology, their own friends, what they tell their friends, etc... in order to deduce that. To say I was lying when I accused you of fabricating it is not correct, showing me that maybe I do not know that yahoo messenger changed the rules earlier about how they archive messages is showing ignorance, not lying and I will admit ignorance.

Your lies are purely reactionary. Anytime you get confronted with evidence you start making baseless assertions (like how my sourced article about the Cheif Seattle Speech had no sources and then ironically accused me of having confirmation bias) or just flat out lie (I'm not reaper06221986, I read Mind of the Market, i read Economics in one Lesson, ...etc.)

"Why should anyone listen to a liar when he says he wants to make society better? You can't even take care of yourself, what the hell makes you think you have any answers to society's ills? I am so tired of people like you and VTV who sit around doing absolutely fucking nothing but sponging off society while bitching about how awful it is."

Oh yes, VTV does nothing except for running a radio show that gives exposure to many much needed topics on propaganda, war, economics, etc... and you know everything about my life that you know what I do on a day to day basis. I spend most of my time studying jackass and then espousing what I have learned to perhaps be corrected on it later. I have been corrected on it a few times, like yesterday I admitted ignorance about whats going on CA with the medical dispensers.

VTV's show is garbage. He brings on collapse pornographers and Zeitards to have circle jerks. Occasionally he'll bring someone on just so he can get free interviews for his stupid Troll documentary. Speaking of which, it's been 2 years now, where's your stupid documentary?

You know nothing about my life other than what you want to look at through narrow minded glasses and quite frankly, you're still pissed off that you got banned from the forums.

Yea, I'm sure Matt cries that he can't be in your conspiracy theory club.

But at any rate, I have to finish my book, "The Web of Debt" which btw is a lot better than "The Creature from Jekyll Island" as it doesn't go off on these irrelevant rants about socialism and these weird conspiracies involving Keynes.

Polishing a turd, eh?
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:20
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@Machwon

I never said anything about my High School situation to eagleeye or to you. I told Eagleeye1975 that I couldn't continue my college class because of a situation with the textbook.



How in the hell could you allow something as simple as a textbook prevent you from taking a class? They give you a receipt for a reason. Hey reason, like voiceofREASON467.

Also about the whole you not logging off your own account: did your dad do that intentionally? Also, how could he have not noticed that he was logged in as you?



You're not supposed to think, you're just supposed to assume he's right or assume there's information missing that vindicates him of all responsibility, liability and or guilt.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:24
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"No bitch, that's still racist as fuck."

So you don't about context which would be when I said, "I only use it [the word nigger] myself to describe a fucking moronic black who is..." so I am describing a specific group of people who act in a specific way that perpetuates a stereotype, thus not racist. I mean if you wanna state that I am being racist then I guess this magazine is also racist:

http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=37

Also let's get our definitions straight.

Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

You will not find a specific comment by me which gives this kind of reference and I have never had this reference or mindset ever.

"I refuse to listen to these videos again. Your voice is anything but YouTube friendly."

What the hell does this have to do what I said?

"So remove that fucking video with the phony Cheif Seattle Speech that promotes the noble savage myth and falsely portrays Native Americans as ideological communal extremists."

I already explained to you that the reason why I put it up was because it was my favorite part in a documentary, nothing more and nothing less. In fact I had no idea that the quote itself was in question until you brought it up. The entire thing was not about whether it "promotes the noble savage myth," (which by the way I would argue that the natives were not savage because that idea in anthropology is just 19th century American Prejudice and you can see so in the literature) but was about what it stated, the philosophy. I don't care if it is genuine, I agree with the philosophy so I put it up. I explained this to you four times and you are still up in arms about that? Geez, take that fucking stick out of your ass already.

"And take down those videos about you not being reaper and microgod. While you're at it, take down the MicroGod videos. Or the videos you said you were going to take down because justintempler showed you distorting my position."

I will do that tomorrow, but as far as me distorting your position? What the hell are you talking about? What videos did I distort your position? Because if I remember correctly every single video in which you responded to me with the exception of one point has been strawman, after strawman, after distortion. I mean how about the idea that I made the claim that the Austrian School holds to Adam Smith's invisible hand when I said such a thing, or how about when you constantly distorted what I said in your video in which you claim that I went on a strawman symposium... I think it's obvious what is going on; you just don't like me because I counter the supposed refutations you give as distortions of what was said.

"I saw some of your videos, they were a total disaster. You embarrassed everyone who has a Windows machine. Anyone who defends Alienware is a retard. "

How could you have seen any of my videos? All you saw was about 1% of all the videos I made in which I made some pretty bad mistakes in only one and the other was a guy who kept claiming shit about my Alienware in which I responded. In order to see my videos you have to see them on my account. But hey talk to this guy as he followed me quite regularly:

http://www.youtube.com/user/oOADROo

"No, I'm interested in truth. You are not. You are interested in pwning people on YT but you're too stupid to do it even if you are right."

I am interested in responding to others with the misconceptions they have so I can open up a dialogue. It might come out as pwnage to you but I find it interesting that you know nothing about me.

"That's why you gave a list of books that "debunked" Austrian economics to prove a point about The Christ Myth because you didn't have a leg to stand on."

"The funny thing is, 3 of those books had nothing to do with economics"

Which 3 books are you even talking about? Here is a list of books I referenced in the past:

The Cancer Stage of Capitalism by John McMurtry

The cost of capitalism by Robert J. Barbera

Free market environmentalism by Terry Lee Anderson and Donald Leal

Arguments for a new left: answering the free-market right by Hilary Wainwright

There are others but those are the main four that come up in what I am referencing.

"1 was a movie about bank bailout"

I assume your talking about Inside Job right? Actually that one is good because the banking crisis in which it references and explicitly states that it was the cause of a refusal to regulate the banks and deregulating them (i.e. repealing the glass stegal act.)

"1 Kant book about a priori"

I don't quite remember referencing that book but I do know that it provides some very good deconstruction of the Austrian core method. The book is called, "Critique of Pure Reason," it was introduced to me in the philosophy club I was in college in my first year.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hnARAAAAYAAJ...

"1 was a book promoting free-market economics: The Mind of the Market: Compassionate Apes, Competitive Humans, and Other Tales from Evolutionary Economics By Michael Shermer. I confronted you about it and you lied over and over again and tried to say it was some other book with the same title that was about stock market strategies. Here's the chat log of it: http://pastebin.com/2UtDpH98"

And I already explained it to you that there was a specific chapter in that book about the dangers of free market trading. I haven't had the time to even go into that and find the chapter or the argument because I've been resting from occupy sacramento and a lot of other things on my plate. But regardless, you keep saying I lied when in fact it was a MISTAKE.

But whatever, I'm not going to reply to you since you are obviously interested in pushing some kind of bullshit view you know is full of shit just to be a troll.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:25
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"How in the hell could you allow something as simple as a textbook prevent you from taking a class? They give you a receipt for a reason. Hey reason, like voiceofREASON467."

Um... because I was never notified when they would switch the textbooks over to the newer one so I could update it and I was pretty tight on money when that happened so I could not afford the newer one? I stated as much in my clarification.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:42
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"Oh, you just happened to forget reaper and MicroGod were your accounts. God, I hate when I do that. "

Doesn't address what I said.

"Anytime you get confronted with evidence you start making baseless assertions (like how my sourced article about the Cheif Seattle Speech had no sources and then ironically accused me of having confirmation bias)"

Actually no it was not reactionary. I did a quite glance and saw no footnotes and deduced your source was something of rhetoric without any actual evidence. Glancing at something and not looking deeper happens a lot and I told you this. NOW YOU ARE LYING and you very well know this.

"VTV's show is garbage. He brings on collapse pornographers and Zeitards to have circle jerks. Occasionally he'll bring someone on just so he can get free interviews for his stupid Troll documentary."

Oh yes, it's not like he has not gotten people like Dr. David Allen (who I met and talked with at occupy sacramento), famous authors like Heron Stone, Birgitta Jonsdottir, Alexis Badon, Roger Stahl, etc... oh wait he has all of those people and more. I bet you even listen to any of the guests he has on there.

Got anything else that is of actual substance that you want to put forth or do you wanna keep on flinging feces my way?
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:48
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"If Neil's "income" and "value" stems from his podcasts, then he should be getting nothing. Dude, you're trying to justify VTV's fatass-fuck lifestyle, and it ain't gonna fly. He's a loser fat fuck, and he's done nothing in life. "

Right, cause you are a personal friend of Neil's and you know everything there is to know about the guy from this thread and your personal intervals with him. Like how everyone kept accusing him of working at McDonald's, beating his wife, etc... which were all proven to be nothing more than speculation, but you know all there is to know about Neil right? Get a life jackass and stop being a fucking troll.
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The Real RoxettePosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 02:59
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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But at any rate, I have to finish my book, "The Web of Debt" which btw is a lot better than "The Creature from Jekyll Island" as it doesn't go off on these irrelevant rants about socialism and these weird conspiracies involving Keynes.
Yes, we've heard of it. It's still toilet paper. It's still LaRouchite propaganda. Why can't you pick up a real book, why does it have to be something from a lie factory, crank machine ideology?
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:00
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"Also about the whole you not logging off your own account: did your dad do that intentionally? Also, how could he have not noticed that he was logged in as you?"

Well when you're sharing a computer with someone, you would assume they would log off on it and you wouldn't have to do that for them.

"You're not supposed to think, you're just supposed to assume he's right or assume there's information missing that vindicates him of all responsibility, liability and or guilt."

I'm just supposed to assume that you're a trained psychologist who acts like a troll on the internet in an unprofessional manner? Regardless of that, your comment is fail.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:05
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"No bitch, that's still racist as fuck."

So you don't about context which would be when I said, "I only use it [the word nigger] myself to describe a fucking moronic black who is..." so I am describing a specific group of people who act in a specific way that perpetuates a stereotype, thus not racist. I mean if you wanna state that I am being racist then I guess this magazine is also racist:

http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=37


I don't care if there's an article written by a black guy who's making the same point. What you said is racist. Period. Shit is racist as fuck, you filthy honky white trash redneck.

Also let's get our definitions straight.

Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

You will not find a specific comment by me which gives this kind of reference and I have never had this reference or mindset ever.




"I refuse to listen to these videos again. Your voice is anything but YouTube friendly."

What the hell does this have to do what I said?
It means I'm not going to subject myself to more of your incoherent speech impediment word salads just so you can play stupid games to show me that Keith never set out to make a video he dide make.

"So remove that fucking video with the phony Cheif Seattle Speech that promotes the noble savage myth and falsely portrays Native Americans as ideological communal extremists."

I already explained to you that the reason why I put it up was because it was my favorite part in a documentary, nothing more and nothing less.

And it was bullshit.
In fact I had no idea that the quote itself was in question until you brought it up. The entire thing was not about whether it "promotes the noble savage myth," (which by the way I would argue that the natives were not savage because that idea in anthropology is just 19th century American Prejudice and you can see so in the literature)

learn what the fuck a noble savage is before you try to debate it, fuckwit
but was about what it stated, the philosophy. I don't care if it is genuine, I agree with the philosophy so I put it up.

So turn your computer off and go live off the land, hypocrite.
I explained this to you four times and you are still up in arms about that? Geez, take that fucking stick out of your ass already.

Because you're pissing on an entire heritage to serve your ideological wetdreams, it's demeaning.


"And take down those videos about you not being reaper and microgod. While you're at it, take down the MicroGod videos. Or the videos you said you were going to take down because justintempler showed you distorting my position."

I will do that tomorrow, but as far as me distorting your position? What the hell are you talking about? What videos did I distort your position? Because if I remember correctly every single video in which you responded to me with the exception of one point has been strawman, after strawman, after distortion.

You don't know what a strawman is, you just say everything is a strawman then strawman me because you're too stupid to even understand the conversation I was having with GG. Period.
I mean how about the idea that I made the claim that the Austrian School holds to Adam Smith's invisible hand when I said such a thing, or how about when you constantly distorted what I said in your video in which you claim that I went on a strawman symposium...

Because you insist that the invisible hand he was talking about was the hand of God. No, Adam Smith was a classical using a metaphor. It's not a position, idiot.
I think it's obvious what is going on; you just don't like me because I counter the supposed refutations you give as distortions of what was said.

Bitch, don't make me laugh. And AOL Dialup advocate could out debate you. You just make an ass of yourself on youtube. HURR THIS IS 600 PEOPLEZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODjEH3nAxDE

"I saw some of your videos, they were a total disaster. You embarrassed everyone who has a Windows machine. Anyone who defends Alienware is a retard. "

How could you have seen any of my videos? All you saw was about 1% of all the videos I made in which I made some pretty bad mistakes in only one and the other was a guy who kept claiming shit about my Alienware in which I responded. In order to see my videos you have to see them on my account. But hey talk to this guy as he followed me quite regularly:

http://www.youtube.com/user/oOADROo
I don't want to, he's probably just as retarded as you.

"No, I'm interested in truth. You are not. You are interested in pwning people on YT but you're too stupid to do it even if you are right."

I am interested in responding to others with the misconceptions they have so I can open up a dialogue. It might come out as pwnage to you but I find it interesting that you know nothing about me.

"That's why you gave a list of books that "debunked" Austrian economics to prove a point about The Christ Myth because you didn't have a leg to stand on."

"The funny thing is, 3 of those books had nothing to do with economics"

Which 3 books are you even talking about? Here is a list of books I referenced in the past:

WRONG BOOKS

I dunno, why not CHECK THE FUCKING VIDEO RESPONSE FOR THE LIST OF BOOK YOU GAVE ME, YOU FUCKING RETARD


"1 was a movie about bank bailout"

I assume your talking about Inside Job right? Actually that one is good because the banking crisis in which it references and explicitly states that it was the cause of a refusal to regulate the banks and deregulating them (i.e. repealing the glass stegal act.)

Yea, because Clinton was an Austrian. Fucking moron


"1 Kant book about a priori"

I don't quite remember referencing that book but I do know that it provides some very good deconstruction of the Austrian core method. The book is called, "Critique of Pure Reason," it was introduced to me in the philosophy club I was in college in my first year.

And that's why Mises used it as the foundation for Human Action, right? Fucking moron.


"1 was a book promoting free-market economics: The Mind of the Market: Compassionate Apes, Competitive Humans, and Other Tales from Evolutionary Economics By Michael Shermer. I confronted you about it and you lied over and over again and tried to say it was some other book with the same title that was about stock market strategies. Here's the chat log of it: http://pastebin.com/2UtDpH98"

And I already explained it to you that there was a specific chapter in that book about the dangers of free market trading. I haven't had the time to even go into that and find the chapter or the argument because I've been resting from occupy sacramento and a lot of other things on my plate. But regardless, you keep saying I lied when in fact it was a MISTAKE.
No, it was a lie. You never read that book and you lied to me when you said you did. Note how you didn't notice the wrong author until you were backed into a corner. It's not like you didn't know who he was, he publishes the Skeptic magazine and is well known in atheist/evolution circles. Fucking retard.


But whatever, I'm not going to reply to you since you are obviously interested in pushing some kind of bullshit view you know is full of shit just to be a troll.

Yea, because everyone who points out your blatant lies, hypocrisy and failures is a troll. No, you're just a pitiful, racist human being, and I'm just stating the obvious weather you like it or not. You think you know so much about human nature and psychology but you can't even peel of a chicks panties, I'm sure YouTube could learn a lot from you.
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anticultistPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:12
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Brainwashing you for money

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OMG we now have another piece of shit zeitard thinking he is smart by ranting and raving on the forum.

Little does this shit wipe realise the more he opens his mouth the more damage he does to himself and his cult.

The fact he is a known liar like VTV, and has many similar characteristic attributes like VTV further compounds the notion that people who want power in zeitard land are mere sociopaths with family problems.
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Caramel ColorPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:14
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hey sailor

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"No bitch, that's still racist as fuck."

So you don't about context which would be when I said, "I only use it [the word nigger] myself to describe a fucking moronic black who is..." so I am describing a specific group of people who act in a specific way that perpetuates a stereotype, thus not racist. I mean if you wanna state that I am being racist then I guess this magazine is also racist:
Quoting this so he can't edit later because GOD DAMN! I love people who argue about the semantics of what racism actually is, invariably they turn out to be a huge racist, and here we are. But it's ok, he means the BAD niggers, not the good ones.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:15
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Bacon Pancakes! Making Bacon Pancakes, take some Bacon and I'll put it in a Pancake! Bacon Pancakes that's what it's gonna make...Bacon Pancaaaaaake!! ♪

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OMG we now have another piece of shit zeitard thinking he is smart by ranting and raving on the forum.

Little does this shit wipe realise the more he opens his mouth the more damage he does to himself and his cult.

The fact he is a known liar like VTV, and has many similar characteristic attributes like VTV further compounds the notion that people who want power in zeitard land are mere sociopaths with family problems.


VOR makes VTV look like Abe Lincoln. (assuming Abe really never lied)
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 03:20
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Bacon Pancakes! Making Bacon Pancakes, take some Bacon and I'll put it in a Pancake! Bacon Pancakes that's what it's gonna make...Bacon Pancaaaaaake!! ♪

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I'm just going to leave this here:
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to recognize their mistakes.The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority.
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others" (p. 1127). The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, both in oneself and as one compares oneself to others.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:01
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@ Roxette: "Yes, we've heard of it. It's still toilet paper. It's still LaRouchite propaganda. Why can't you pick up a real book, why does it have to be something from a lie factory, crank machine ideology?"

I see, so you're admitting not to have ever read the book itself? I am not at all convinced of everything it gives but it does paint an interesting picture about the history of Debt before the Federal Reserve. Still, I am wondering if you have actually read and done the research on this subject or if you're just regurgitating information that others have said that you agree with regardless? Might wanna check out "The Paradigm Conspiracy" which points out the tendency to reject new information that contradicts the old based on emotional ties to that information, might do you and this entire forum a good thing.

"I don't care if there's an article written by a black guy who's making the same point. What you said is racist. Period. Shit is racist as fuck, you filthy honky white trash redneck."

So it's true then, you don't care about something called context. I also stated several times that you're ignoring the context..

I also gave an explanation for that screen cap that you keep showing again and again... it's either up to you to refute it or just ignore it or just concede. You've got a vendetta it's clear to paint me in whatever light you like and you don't give a damn about the other side it seems.

"And it was bullshit."

*yawn*... you seem to have an issue with the fact that I did the act and not the intent behind it which explains the act itself. So you're just looking at a corner of the Mona Lisa and saying it's shitty without even looking at the whole painting, nice.

"learn what the fuck a noble savage is before you try to debate it, fuckwit"

I know what the term noble savage is, I was pointing out that the term it's using (savage) is not a correct definition of what they would be. It's very interesting that you wanna attack everything I said regardless of the context.

"So turn your computer off and go live off the land, hypocrite."

Um... I'm getting the distinct impression that you did not even pay attention to what was said in the video as it says nothing about living off the land; it's just about living in harmony with nature and not trying to ride against it and as a result destroying what nature provides for us.

"Because you're pissing on an entire heritage to serve your ideological wetdreams, it's demeaning. "

lmfao... you're getting pissed off at a misunderstanding that is propagated by you and you alone and you also refuse to see any kind of explanation to the contrary. I find it funny that you constantly try to talk about you're a cult psychiatrist or some shit like that yet you show the very same behavior that many cult members put forth: demonization of the opposition and a refusal to hear the other side based on a view propagated either by the group mind or the individual.

"You don't know what a strawman is, you just say everything is a strawman then strawman me because you're too stupid to even understand the conversation I was having with GG. Period."

Strawman: The attempt to substitute someone's argument for something the person did not say, and attack it as if the person made that argument in an attempt to make it appear that the person is refuted instead of attacking a STRAWMAN. That is what a strawman is and I point out CONSTANTLY, why that is not my argument and why you just attacked a strawman. I call out strawman wherever it may appear and you yourself are trying to defend your own strawman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TzIWd0FElE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kARPPri-9lk

Can anyone else count how many strawman's Machwon here did to my videos?

"Because you insist that the invisible hand he was talking about was the hand of God. No, Adam Smith was a neoclassical using a metaphor. It's not a position, idiot. "

1. Where did I ever say that he is refering to the hand of god in my videos to you?

2. I referred to it as a form of "dogma" or "holy writ" because he nor anyone ever explains when the Hand is working or how the hell we can detect it working at all.

3. It's a metaphor yes, but a metaphor that is a reference to the actual real world and how it works. Hence, if one cannot explain how it works then it is a worthless metaphor.

Nice to know you just strawmanned me again.

"I don't want to, he's probably just as retarded as you."

So, you don't want to engage in any kind of evidence that might contradict your original assumptions? Nice to know you hold steadfast to the dogma of the Austrian School by engaging in a priori, tell me do you a priori everything you do?

"I dunno, why not CHECK THE FUCKING VIDEO RESPONSE FOR THE LIST OF BOOK YOU GAVE ME, YOU FUCKING RETARD"

1. I have over 20 video responses

2. You made the claim and now you want me to do your research for you? Wow, talk about being lazy.

"Yea, because Clinton was an Austrian. Fucking moron."

What does that have to do with anything? It's specifically address the claim that deregulating the market's make things more efficient, yet when you deregulating the banking industry it caused an incredible amount of collapse. It's one of the age old claims made by Austrians; inserting a red herring is not conducive to an actual criticism.

"And that's why Mises used it as the foundation for Human Action, right? Fucking moron."

Um... what does that have to do with the method that Mises uses called "Rationalism."

"No, it was a lie. You never read that book and you lied to me when you said you did. Note how you didn't notice the wrong author until you were backed into a corner."

"No, it was a lie. You never read that book and you lied to me when you said you did. Note how you didn't notice the wrong author until you were backed into a corner."

Um... you seem to read only what you want to read. Great job in admitting that you have painted a picture in only in where you are right about everything you are espousing about my character, another characteristic of cult behavior.

"It's not like you didn't know who he was, he publishes the Skeptic magazine and is well known in atheist/evolution circles."

Actually I didn't because I never paid attention to the Atheist/Evolution debate beyond what went on with YouTube and he never came up in any of the videos I watched of AronRa, thunderf00t, cdk007, potholer54, etc... I never delved into it beyond looking at YouTube videos because it wasn't interesting to me.

"Yea, because everyone who points out your blatant lies, hypocrisy and failures is a troll."

Every single post that you have made to me thus far have been of the following:

1. Accusations about my character and intent.

2. Not understanding the difference between lying and making a mistake (for which you accused me of day 1).

3. Engaged in strawman fallacies against me and tried to engage in red herrings.

4. Consistently and constantly obsess over me and exposing me when this shows a lack of professionalism that a supposed "cult expert" should have.

I can keep going on, but it's readily apparent that the only thing your out to do is just constantly paint me in a bad light no matter what I say to the contrary or evidence to the contrary.

"OMG we now have another piece of shit zeitard thinking he is smart by ranting and raving on the forum."

Hey anticultist, have you ever found it funny that the only people who take the shit seriously that you post are a group of trolls and the people here in Conspiracy Science and almost nobody gives your blog any credibility other than your own inner circle? What does sound like? Oh yah, a cult.

"The fact he is a known liar like VTV, and has many similar characteristic attributes like VTV further compounds the notion that people who want power in zeitard land are mere sociopaths with family problems."

Gee, didn't realize you were a psychiatrist there...

"Quoting this so he can't edit later because GOD DAMN! I love people who argue about the semantics of what racism actually is, invariably they turn out to be a huge racist, and here we are. But it's ok, he means the BAD niggers, not the good ones."

I would not edit it to begin with. But again, the only reason why I point it out is context and the fact that you guy's are abusing the word in a trollish attempt.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:03
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I'm just going to leave this here:
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to recognize their mistakes.The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority.
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others" (p. 1127). The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, both in oneself and as one compares oneself to others.


Great to hear that you just described yourself... one has to wonder how many times you have created this projection onto your friends, family members, etc... you must have a very lonely life there.
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anticultistPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:09
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NO YOU


CUNT
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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:13
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@voiceofreason467 Prove it.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:14
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Bacon Pancakes! Making Bacon Pancakes, take some Bacon and I'll put it in a Pancake! Bacon Pancakes that's what it's gonna make...Bacon Pancaaaaaake!! ♪

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Oh wow. I thought VOR was writing his own book, this is even worse. He's reading LaRouche cult propaganda. When you're done reading that book, you can write to the author and ask what happened to Jeremiah Duggan.
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The Real RoxettePosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:17
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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@ Roxette: "Yes, we've heard of it. It's still toilet paper. It's still LaRouchite propaganda. Why can't you pick up a real book, why does it have to be something from a lie factory, crank machine ideology?"

I see, so you're admitting not to have ever read the book itself? I am not at all convinced of everything it gives but it does paint an interesting picture about the history of Debt before the Federal Reserve. Still, I am wondering if you have actually read and done the research on this subject or if you're just regurgitating information that others have said that you agree with regardless? Might wanna check out "The Paradigm Conspiracy" which points out the tendency to reject new information that contradicts the old based on emotional ties to that information, might do you and this entire forum a good thing.
No wonder you're so awful at filtering information. I never said I didn't read it or no one else here did. You aren't some exclusive knowledge depository. That book isn't exactly new or unknown amongst the skeptics in the world, a lot of us have read it. This thread isn't about fractional reserve banking, it's about what a fuck up and liar you are.

When we talk about rejecting information, it's interesting because you do exactly that. What's with conspiracy theorists like yourself thinking you've stumbled upon something new? The stuff in her book has been around literally, decades and millions of people know this stuff. That doesn't change the fact Ellen Brown is 1) a natural cure whore, 2) anti-vaxxer, 3) a LaRouche follower, 4) consistently inaccurate in her claims about what the gold standard is in the book, 5) believes cancer has cures that are being suppressed, 6) vegan bullshit. This makes her a crank, which makes sense as to why you like her, and someone being a crank is an awful good reason to reject their opinions. Just being someone has "some good ideas" doesn't mean that we should give them the time of day.

It's confirmation bias, VOR, the way you ignore things that disagree with your predetermined conclusions and stick to thinks that fit into the crank belief system you hold. You've got a cluster fuck of social problems, yet you're lecturing me on what you perceive my beliefs, thoughts, and feelings to be, meanwhile bitching that people on this forum are doing that to you. We can add hypocrite to your list of social ailments.
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anticultistPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:23
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I don't debate with lying morons it only leads to circular debates on side issues they are able understand. In this case very little as he is completely misguided in most everything he discusses.

Hence why Voice Of Racism is getting no time of day from me, I would ban him now before he starts making a mess of the forum with his gnarly spitty mouth.

Unless we are keeping him here out of pure entertainment value, then I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment.
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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:31
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I don't debate with lying morons it only leads to circular debates on side issues they are able understand. In this case very little as he is completely misguided in most everything he discusses.

Hence why Voice Of Racism is getting no time of day from me, I would ban him now before he starts making a mess of the forum with his gnarly spitty mouth.

Unless we are keeping him here out of pure entertainment value, then I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment.
I think voiceofreason467 is a smart and intellectual type of person; I think he is worthy of a debate. I still request voiceofreason467 to prove his case a little bit more, I'd like to have a worthy debate with this intellectual giant.
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anticultistPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 04:34
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I think voiceofreason467 is a smart and intellectual type of person and I think he is worthy of a debate. I still request voiceofreason467 to prove his case a little bit more, I'd like to have a worthy debate with this intellectual giant.
Sarcasm at its finest. I might as well point that out because VOR will be unable to differentiate it and believe you are serious about his intellectual enormity.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 05:06
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Bacon Pancakes! Making Bacon Pancakes, take some Bacon and I'll put it in a Pancake! Bacon Pancakes that's what it's gonna make...Bacon Pancaaaaaake!! ♪

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"I don't care if there's an article written by a black guy who's making the same point. What you said is racist. Period. Shit is racist as fuck, you filthy honky white trash redneck."

So it's true then, you don't care about something called context. I also stated several times that you're ignoring the context..
Context noted, it's still racist. The fact you don't see how racist it is makes it even more disturbing. D/K in full effect.

I also gave an explanation for that screen cap that you keep showing again and again... it's either up to you to refute it or just ignore it or just concede. You've got a vendetta it's clear to paint me in whatever light you like and you don't give a damn about the other side it seems.
Because, it's your account. Hence you said it. YOu lost your plausable deniability card years ago when you made MicroGod and denied reaper was your account. How about you drag your fat ass Dad on camera and tell us that he wrote it. If not, evidence sez: YUH A LIEUH!

"And it was bullshit."

*yawn*... you seem to have an issue with the fact that I did the act and not the intent behind it which explains the act itself. So you're just looking at a corner of the Mona Lisa and saying it's shitty without even looking at the whole painting, nice.
No, that's what you are doing and you don't see how how full of shit you admittedly are. D/K in full effect.

"learn what the fuck a noble savage is before you try to debate it, fuckwit"

I know what the term noble savage is, I was pointing out that the term it's using (savage) is not a correct definition of what they would be. It's very interesting that you wanna attack everything I said regardless of the context.
You're an idiot. You have no clue what the noble savage myth is and just want to harp on the "savage" bit. That video is the noble savage myth in a nutshell. D/K in full effect.

"So turn your computer off and go live off the land, hypocrite."

Um... I'm getting the distinct impression that you did not even pay attention to what was said in the video as it says nothing about living off the land; it's just about living in harmony with nature and not trying to ride against it and as a result destroying what nature provides for us.
Yea, because you have the only computer that doesn't use conflict metals or hydrocarbon based plastics. Forgive me for not assuming that. I'm sure your car runs on happy thoughts too. D/K in full effect

"Because you're pissing on an entire heritage to serve your ideological wetdreams, it's demeaning. "

lmfao... you're getting pissed off at a misunderstanding that is propagated by you and you alone and you also refuse to see any kind of explanation to the contrary. I find it funny that you constantly try to talk about you're a cult psychiatrist or some shit like that yet you show the very same behavior that many cult members put forth: demonization of the opposition and a refusal to hear the other side based on a view propagated either by the group mind or the individual.
I'm a cult psychiatrist? LOL! This is why I call you retarded. I thought you knew a thing or 2 about the psychology field with all the Freud dick you suck. Psychiatrist, what a maroon

"You don't know what a strawman is, you just say everything is a strawman then strawman me because you're too stupid to even understand the conversation I was having with GG. Period."

Strawman: The attempt to substitute someone's argument for something the person did not say, and attack it as if the person made that argument in an attempt to make it appear that the person is refuted instead of attacking a STRAWMAN. That is what a strawman is and I point out CONSTANTLY, why that is not my argument and why you just attacked a strawman. I call out strawman wherever it may appear and you yourself are trying to defend your own strawman.
Too bad you keep misapplying it. Acharyia S's conspiracy was that Christianity was a construct based off other religions but I only pointed out some of the key factors were based not on the construct, but post constructional tradition. It was only AFTER the numerious debunkings did she change her story. She's a fraud, and you're sucking down her Kool-Aid. Shit has been debunked more thoroughly than creationism and 9/11 Twoof but you still buy it. Why; because you're a fucking idiot. Then you went off on some tangent about the trinity as if it was relevant to the Christ Myth. It wasn't Besides, why am I telling you this, you already know that, thats why you admitted it and offered to take the videos down as a way to correct your mistake. However NOW it's all true again because you don't want to look like a retard. D/K in full effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TzIWd0FElE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kARPPri-9lk

Can anyone else count how many strawman's Machwon here did to my videos?
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"Because you insist that the invisible hand he was talking about was the hand of God. No, Adam Smith was a neoclassical using a metaphor. It's not a position, idiot. "

1. Where did I ever say that he is refering to the hand of god in my videos to you?
Because that's what your favorite guy said in your favorite movie and you held to it until EagleEye beat it out of your neanderthal skull

2. I referred to it as a form of "dogma" or "holy writ" because he nor anyone ever explains when the Hand is working or how the hell we can detect it working at all.
It's not holy writ of ANY school, it was a passing metaphor. EagleEye told you 80 goddamn times what it ment. It is, however, holy writ of the Zeitgeist school of Dipshitology that sez we believe McMurtry's strawman of it


3. It's a metaphor yes, but a metaphor that is a reference to the actual real world and how it works. Hence, if one cannot explain how it works then it is a worthless metaphor.
EagleEye already did 80 times, you were just too busy drinking Kool Aid. Also I have a video about it in my channel if you really gave a shit, but you won't change your mind because your God McMurtry says otherwise.

Nice to know you just strawmanned me again.
STWAWMANZ

"I don't want to, he's probably just as retarded as you."

So, you don't want to engage in any kind of evidence that might contradict your original assumptions? Nice to know you hold steadfast to the dogma of the Austrian School by engaging in a priori, tell me do you a priori everything you do?
No, I just don't care about your stupid Mac vs. PC debates. It's super dorky. No wonder why you're still a virgin.

"I dunno, why not CHECK THE FUCKING VIDEO RESPONSE FOR THE LIST OF BOOK YOU GAVE ME, YOU FUCKING RETARD"

1. I have over 20 video responses

2. You made the claim and now you want me to do your research for you? Wow, talk about being lazy.
No, retard YOUR video response to me. Remember, I said it was a list of books you gave me... why do I bother. YOu're too fucking retarded.

"Yea, because Clinton was an Austrian. Fucking moron."

What does that have to do with anything? It's specifically address the claim that deregulating the market's make things more efficient, yet when you deregulating the banking industry it caused an incredible amount of collapse. It's one of the age old claims made by Austrians; inserting a red herring is not conducive to an actual criticism.
Guess who repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, dipshit.


"And that's why Mises used it as the foundation for Human Action, right? Fucking moron."

Um... what does that have to do with the method that Mises uses called "Rationalism."

You mean 'A Priori,' dipshit.


"No, it was a lie. You never read that book and you lied to me when you said you did. Note how you didn't notice the wrong author until you were backed into a corner."

*double paste ommited on account of VOR being retarded*

Um... you seem to read only what you want to read. Great job in admitting that you have painted a picture in only in where you are right about everything you are espousing about my character, another characteristic of cult behavior.
Yea because Shermer magically became a Zeitard and debunked capitalism in a pro-capitalist book just for you :D I defy anyone to read that chatlog and walk away agreeing with VOR.

"It's not like you didn't know who he was, he publishes the Skeptic magazine and is well known in atheist/evolution circles."

Actually I didn't because I never paid attention to the Atheist/Evolution debate beyond what went on with YouTube and he never came up in any of the videos I watched of AronRa, thunderf00t, cdk007, potholer54, etc... I never delved into it beyond looking at YouTube videos because it wasn't interesting to me.
Yea but he produces that Skeptic Magazine you like. Or no, that's the Magazine that debunked Zeitgeist pt.1 and 2. Seriouly you're full of shit. You were big into it, you even debated shockofgod.

"Yea, because everyone who points out your blatant lies, hypocrisy and failures is a troll."

Every single post that you have made to me thus far have been of the following:

1. Accusations about my character and intent.
Because you are a racist liar who can't accept evidence.

2. Not understanding the difference between lying and making a mistake (for which you accused me of day 1).
No, you are a liar. The reaper/MicroGod thing really ended that myth. Also let's talk about those YT comments where you denied chimpout123 was your Dad, lol. Or did you forget or not know he was your Dad?

3. Engaged in strawman fallacies against me and tried to engage in red herrings.

4. Consistently and constantly obsess over me and exposing me when this shows a lack of professionalism that a supposed "cult expert" should have.
IIRC you're the one who kept making videos at me for conversations I was having with GG. And Matt started this thread, not me. Dipshit.

I can keep going on, but it's readily apparent that the only thing your out to do is just constantly paint me in a bad light no matter what I say to the contrary or evidence to the contrary.
You wouldn't accept evidence if it was handed to you on a silver platter by a robot butler. You don't strawman, you just distort people because you head has too much residual bong resin.


I can't tell, is this one a "n▇▇r" or just a black guy? You seem to be an expert.
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JimJesusPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 05:18
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Bacon Pancakes! Making Bacon Pancakes, take some Bacon and I'll put it in a Pancake! Bacon Pancakes that's what it's gonna make...Bacon Pancaaaaaake!! ♪

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This is a lot easier than debating him on YouTube. His text doesn't have an fish face and annoying speech impediment.
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Agent MattPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 07:11
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The guy just doesn't get it.

I dunno, I think he's probably actually retarded. If you're in high school until 21 and then end up on SSI, there's got to be something seriously wrong with him.

On one hand I feel sorry for him, on the other his attitude ensures that he will always get what he deserves.
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voiceofreason467Posted: Oct 24, 2011 - 07:11
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Okay, I know I'm almost certainly breaking rules for this site by doing this and will get my IP banned, but I just had to because it's just too good. After everything that just happened to him in the past 24 hours, this kid STILL has not learned his lesson.

Obviously, by that I mean, I am not Devan, and guess which password I used to make this post?
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Agent MattPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 07:15
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One more thing:

"You know nothing about my life other than what you want to look at through narrow minded glasses and quite frankly, you're still pissed off that you got banned from the forums."

Banned from what forums?

TZM? Never been a member. Ever. I made one account to test Ed's claim that people were not banned for questioning the movement's dogma. The account was banned for questioning the movement's dogma, which is what I fucking wanted to happen in the first place.

So yeah, I guess I'm just steamed my account with a post count of like four was banned from a forum I wanted banned from to prove a point. Yep, that's why I hate TZM. It couldn't be that its a crank conspiracy religion that allows worthless retards to think they're contributing to society.
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anticultistPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 07:25
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Quote from voiceofreason467

Okay, I know I'm almost certainly breaking rules for this site by doing this and will get my IP banned, but I just had to because it's just too good. After everything that just happened to him in the past 24 hours, this kid STILL has not learned his lesson.

Obviously, by that I mean, I am not Devan, and guess which password I used to make this post?


ELITE245
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Agent MattPosted: Oct 24, 2011 - 07:30
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Seriously? He kept the same password that compromised all of his other accounts?

The guy's retarded folks. Literally.
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