Skeptic Project

Oh, thanks. ;)

It's going to be very exciting.

After that I'll be moving to Melbourne as soon as I get a house - and then too long after we are going to begin what we've talked about. Ohyeah.

Slight thread derail, but from Brenton's link, I found a post from one of the admin's in regards to Brenton posting here.


...Three weeks is not a couple of months, and given your postings on the conspiracy science forum (again), I think we've had about all we can take from your right now.


LOL, do they actively check the RSS feed on this website? It wasn't even mentioned in the TZM thread, so I presume that all of the admins on TZM regularly check this site for 'dissenters'. Edward probably gets more traffic from the admins / Peter Joseph then anyone else.

Jeez, I come back for the first time in like 2 days and all I see is more whining by the Zeitgeisters' defender of the week.

Dull.

Also, since it seems like Brenton is back, I'd like his explanation on the events in the end of the following thread: http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/yo-brenton-eccles-you-still-out-there/page/5</p>

....Basically saying to TZM that conspiracyscience.com is the enemy?

@sil

If you're thinking midgets and beautiful black women.. Well, yes my girlfriend was here, but no.

I should have said "not pr0n holiday".

http://www.deathball.net/notpron/notpron.htm

hes not the only one im sure haha

just a quick note interestingly there are no defenders of zeitgeist on the replies of carriers blog as of the time this was posted

I just want to say that I thoroughly enjoy the tags for this thread.

Brenton Eccles said:

I've laughed my ass off at most of the responses to what I said. Especially Peter's (presently successful) attempt to turn my initial, incredibly positive and constructive statement into something inflammatory.

And I especially couldn't care less what Peter thinks of conspiracy science. He doesn't know Edward, and because he doesn't know Edward he's forced to make all these ridiculously erroneous assumptions (see his 'case study') with no basis. In that he falters. And that's fine, that's his right. That's all I have to say on that.

haha homerun !!

Typically he got banned for this, but i think its great he spoke up against those fucking idiots.

http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=254048&limit=10&limitstart=30#255337

>>". I only started reading analysis on ZG1 part1, and some of it maybe had merit. But ultimately it was redundant and didn't matter and had further counterpoints, or totally had the wrong interpretation for the purpose of that part of the film -- as NOT to be some end-all-be-all historical factsection of all religions; but rather to be something else."

lolwut? Is this basically like the "disclaimer" of 'it may be wrong, but at least it's opening people's minds!!!'?

>>"Most frustrating with these analyses which you mention is that Peter himself has posted detailed notes and acknowledged errors in the movies, and has publicly disclaimed direct association between the movement and the elements of the movie related to "conspiracy theory.""

Really? Really?! This shit is honestly rage-inducing.

>>"Do Peter's statements in the first movie about 9-11 have anything to do with what type of economic system is best for the future? No. But it's a lot more fun, and easier, for someone with a hangup to attack him on these issues than it is for them to read Modern Money Mechanics and try to understand fractional reserve banking and the monetary system."

Completely ignoring the fact that Edward used MMM as well? Jeez.

>>"Some attacks are coming from what many in society view as credible sources, Noam Chomsky, for example, even though they may also be done with out completeness.
"

Anybody have a link to that by chance?

Thank you.

@ lofi, it should be posted sometime this afternoon. I'm doing the final edits.

@Muertos,

I edited the slug/url for the post so remove the ' and " so please update anything you put out there accordingly. The reason is the characters used are in unicode, and I worry about proper handling across browsers and also reverse compatibility if anything were to change in the URLs in the future.

I've seen that thread they linked before and I'm not really impressed with what a bunch of people who have a totally infallible view of Acharya S can come up with, especially when they call me names like "sexist."

These quotes show a lot:

>> This guy Edward Winston - i.e., Captain Ferseus - has a lot of nerve specifically creating a website for the sole intent and purpose of smearing Zeitgeist Part 1 and Acharya S, when he is so completely incompetent, unscientific and unscholarly.

>> Tru dat!!! Edward Winston certainly needs to be held accountable for the garbage he has posted on Zeitgeist Part 1 but, also, he needs to apologize for the utter malicious smears and TRASH he has posted about Acharya S. Anyone who cites this guy Ed as a legit authoritative critique of Zeitgeist should be forever humiliated for it - theist or atheist. Edward Winston really is an embarrassment to all Atheists and Freethinkers everywhere.

It's really sad how they view people who disagree as enemies, and shows their really fucked up way of thinking. Even if I'm an embarrassment to all Atheists and Freethinkers, so is Skeptic Magazine and countless others, because they too think Acharya S is absolutely full of shit.

And I'm not sure what "TRASH" I posted about Acharya S; I guess daring to question her is trash in their eyes, after all she's wrote a lot, so she must be correct, that's how it works, right?

She has die-hard fans and got more via Zeitgeist, but even after being around for so long and even after constant promotion due to Zeitgeist nobody gives a shit about her. She gets less hits than I do and I'm a nobody.

I always find it just absolutely hilarious how people will rush out of the wood work to defend someone they know from the Internet like it's their sister or mother, calling people who disagree with them names and talk about how shameful those people are.

Here, I've got something for those guys in that thread:

http://conspiracyscience.com/blog_upload/2010/05/butthurt-form.jpg</p>

>> has a lot of nerve specifically creating a website for the sole intent and purpose of smearing Zeitgeist Part 1 and Acharya S, when he is so completely incompetent, unscientific and unscholarly.

If they seriously believe I created my site just to talk about her, then I'm certain they didn't read anything else other than that one page. I don't give a shit about her, she's a nobody. Skeptic Magazine is also unscientific and unscholarly, as their conclusions were the same as mine, and no, they didn't use me as a source. There are plenty of other places that question only Part 1, except of course because Peter Joseph as picked me to be the distracting external enemy, that means my soul purpose on Earth is to worry about Acharya S and destroying TZM.

>> certainly needs to be held accountable for the garbage he has posted on Zeitgeist Part 1 but, also, he needs to apologize for the utter malicious smears and TRASH he has posted about Acharya S

So by "held accountable" do they mean they want to kill me or something? That's not a nice thing to say about people who disagree with you. Not only that but I guess I should apologize first. I'm not going to apologize for voicing my opinion, just like I'm not going to demand that Peter Joseph or the gang of idiots blowing him on that thread be "held accountable" for saying I suffer from mental illness, that I'm bigoted, homophobic, or sexist because I disagree with them.

I really can't wait until this TZM shit is just over and done with, it's already falling apart and it's great to see, but they're more annoying than the Alex Jones crowd, because at least his fans don't go on and on about how sensitive and perfect Alex Jones is and how I have to apologize to him.

Some more funny comments:

>> I am not sure if he will ever apologize. He feels like he is way too justified in his assertions and insults. He is a hero for mankind, spreading awareness of the "bullshit" in the world.

Does anyone else feel like they're reading a description of Peter Joseph? As I recall, nobody's called me a hero, but Peter Joseph never denied being a hero or "heroic" to those who said so in that thread. I also take it these people believe 9/11 was an inside job as well, because if Peter isn't spreading bullshit, that must mean what he says about it is true.

>> I don't expect Edward Winston/"Captain Ferseus," to actually apologize - that would require a conscience.

I don't expect for anyone to apologize for calling me mentally ill, homophobic, or sexist in that thread because I disagree. They obviously don't hold PJ or Acharya S to the same level of scrutiny as they do me.

Edit: Interestingly someone else must have been reading that thread because I also got an email about the mistake I made by correcting Perseus as Ferseus, so I double checked and I was way wrong. And I've made the correction:

http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#jesus_christ_is_a_myth</p>

Isn't that interesting, someone shows me (not cries on a forum) where I was wrong and I admit it, corrected it, and moved on. I didn't argue on podcasts and join other forums to tell people that "no matter what I'm never wrong." That must seem to foreign to these guys, because I wouldn't have a problem betting that none of them have ever admitted to being wrong, and I know for certain their mighty leaders never have.

I always find it really bizarre how people will find a mistake I've made and just run with it, never contacting me and actually finding out if I know it's a mistake and I'm just ignoring it. I guess they're used to that though, because if Peter or Acharya make a mistake, they sure as hell never will be called on it by their followers and if someone does contact them, they'll ignore it or do mental gymnastics to explain why they're infallible.

Yes, I was wrong; big fucking deal. I haven't seen people freak out this much since some pages I referenced were offset because I mixed up the actual book page numbers with the PDF page numbers. So this isn't the first time this has been done, and it's really popular with Zeitgeist followers:

http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-two/#buildingseven</p>

They can still call me Captain Ferseus though, sounds like something SciFi and bad ass. Watch out Han Solo, Captain Ferseus is coming to steal your lady.

To be fair, the difference between "some community college and some university" and "some community college" to Americans is very small. Both categories equate to very little in the eyes of most, especially when they have a problem with the person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1jc1qdCT9E <-- anybody check out this video? title: Zeitology 101: Zeitgeist movement leader Peter Joseph Merola e-mail harassment to Plautus Satire

First half of it I found hilarious, Peter Merola seems to have some sort of issue with anybody that has credentials/higher levels of education... Apparently Peter Merola defines anybody mentally Ill with any type of REAL credentials so if you oppose or disagree with Peter Merola AND have credentials in that particular field watch out >_>